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Talk:John 15-21 (Translated) (view source)
Revision as of 22:57, December 25, 2022
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::[EC] Archaic? In what sense, out of curiosity? The Great Tribulation can refer to the final stages of the end times preceding Jesus's second return. Furthermore, if there's a traditional meaning to the term that might not be well-corresponded in contemporary vernacular, then I think it's especially important to preserve the original intended meaning as accurately as possible. After all, the Conservative Bible Project ought to ''conserve'' Scriptural wisdom to the best it can. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>(Exodus 23:2)</sup>]]''''' Sunday, 17:33, December 25, 2022 (EST)
::[EC] Archaic? In what sense, out of curiosity? The Great Tribulation can refer to the final stages of the end times preceding Jesus's second return. Furthermore, if there's a traditional meaning to the term that might not be well-corresponded in contemporary vernacular, then I think it's especially important to preserve the original intended meaning as accurately as possible. After all, the Conservative Bible Project ought to ''conserve'' Scriptural wisdom to the best it can. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>(Exodus 23:2)</sup>]]''''' Sunday, 17:33, December 25, 2022 (EST)
:::Continued use of archaic language in [[Bible translations]] tends to cause losses in popularity. "Tribulation" seems to be used today only in connection with quoting an old Bible translation. It's a good word, but let's not ignore cultural winds that constantly sweep across our society. Persecution, in contrast, is used in political discourse daily.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 17:42, December 25, 2022 (EST)
:::Continued use of archaic language in [[Bible translations]] tends to cause losses in popularity. "Tribulation" seems to be used today only in connection with quoting an old Bible translation. It's a good word, but let's not ignore cultural winds that constantly sweep across our society. Persecution, in contrast, is used in political discourse daily.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 17:42, December 25, 2022 (EST)
::::The English word "trouble" is likely a contracted vernacular form of the Latin root "tribulation". Trouble can stem from one's own mischief coping with the world, and not necessarily blamed on others. And that's what Jesus says her. He doesn't say "In the world you will be victims". He says "In the world you will have trouble coping," which can either be from victimhood or one's own mistakes or lack of faith. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 17:56, December 25, 2022 (EST)
::::The English word "trouble" is likely a contracted vernacular form of the Latin root "tribulation". Trouble can stem from one's own mischief coping with the world, and not necessarily blamed on others. And that's what Jesus says here. He doesn't say "In the world you will be victims". He says "In the world you will have trouble coping," which can either be from victimhood or one's own mistakes or lack of faith. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 17:56, December 25, 2022 (EST)