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::::The English word "trouble" is likely a contracted vernacular form of the Latin root "tribulation". Trouble can stem from one's own mischief coping with the world, and not necessarily blamed on others. And that's what Jesus says here. He doesn't say "In the world you will be victims". He says "In the world you will have trouble coping," which can either be from victimhood or one's own mistakes or lack of faith. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]^{[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]} 17:56, December 25, 2022 (EST)

::::The English word "trouble" is likely a contracted vernacular form of the Latin root "tribulation". Trouble can stem from one's own mischief coping with the world, and not necessarily blamed on others. And that's what Jesus says here. He doesn't say "In the world you will be victims". He says "In the world you will have trouble coping," which can either be from victimhood or one's own mistakes or lack of faith. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]^{[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]} 17:56, December 25, 2022 (EST)

::::[EC] Hmm, to reply to Andy, I see what you mean. Ultimately, I'd say that the pursuit of truth should not halt at possible loss of popularity. In Jesus's day, his messages appealed to truth, not popularity; some Jews, being too worldly, sought freedom from Roman authorities, and rejected Jesus's emphasis on obeying Caesar, and on storing treasure in Heaven. And pursuit of popular appeal led to the church's later downfall; in the time of Constantine, the church tried to convert pagans and also employed vicious antisemitism to, whether out of sheer malice or expediently, distance themselves from Jews (who were becoming unpopular); they ultimately found the pagans converting ''them''.

::::[EC] Hmm, to reply to Andy, I see what you mean. Ultimately, I'd say that the pursuit of truth should not halt at possible loss of popularity. In Jesus's day, his messages appealed to truth, not popularity; some Jews, being too worldly, sought freedom from Roman authorities, and rejected Jesus's emphasis on obeying Caesar, and on storing treasure in Heaven. And pursuit of popular appeal led to the church's later downfall in terms of preaching biblical truth; in the time of Constantine, the church tried to convert pagans and also employed vicious antisemitism to, whether out of sheer malice or expediently, distance themselves from Jews (who were becoming unpopular); they ultimately found the pagans converting ''them''.

::::Ultimately, I'd contend that so long as the CBP maintains a consistent message of preserving Scriptural wisdom and exemplifies it concisely, we shouldn't worry about archaic words potentially being off-putting for some. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|^{(Exodus 23:2)}]]''''' Sunday, 17:57, December 25, 2022 (EST)

::::Ultimately, I'd contend that so long as the CBP maintains a consistent message of preserving Scriptural wisdom and exemplifies it concisely, we shouldn't worry about archaic words potentially being off-putting for some. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|^{(Exodus 23:2)}]]''''' Sunday, 17:57, December 25, 2022 (EST)