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Talk:Debate:Listing the Earth's most pressing needs in urgent order of fixing (view source)
Revision as of 02:34, June 8, 2007
, 02:34, June 8, 2007→Alleged errors and contradictions in the Bible: These are just as bad
Yes I'm sorry, I gave you the wrong link, those absurdities aren't very good are they. You should look at the contradictions page, that's what I meant to send. I don't ask you to refute all of them I just ask that you consider them because there are some that are just plain obvious and show that the bible does contain contradictions. [[User:Bolly Ottihw|Bolly Ottihw]] 10:22, 8 June 2007
Yes I'm sorry, I gave you the wrong link, those absurdities aren't very good are they. You should look at the contradictions page, that's what I meant to send. I don't ask you to refute all of them I just ask that you consider them because there are some that are just plain obvious and show that the bible does contain contradictions. [[User:Bolly Ottihw|Bolly Ottihw]] 10:22, 8 June 2007
:No, they are no better. The introductory comments I made in my last post apply here just as much. An added point is that the author of the list doesn't even both to justify that they really are contradictions; he just expects you to believe him, or to see them the way that he does.
:But just to prove the point, here are answers to the first few.
:Genesis records God creating ''light'' on day 1, and the ''sun'' on day 4. What exactly ''is'' the contradiction?
:Genesis 1 records a chronological sequence of what days God created various things on. Genesis 2 (actually starting around verse 4) records a non-chronological sequence of what was involved in creating man and woman, that is, a different look at a point briefly covered in chapter 1. You know those movies that have "flashback" sequences? Genesis 2 is a bit like that, with flashbacks to events in chapter 1.
:So the next few contradictions may be explained, in part at least, by the chapter 2 events not being a chronological sequence, but by references back to events in chapter 1. Additionally, God creating trees on day 3 does not preclude him creating a few more later, specifically for the Garden of Eden.
: Genesis one records man and woman both being created on day 6. They are mentioned together, but there is no statement to indicate that one didn't come before the other. So the chapter 2 reference to Eve being created after Adam is not a contradiction of chapter 1 at all. This is a classic example of bibliosceptic idiocy, with no contradiction being presented as a contradiction, and why these lists have no credibility.
: That's enough to prove my point.
:[[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 22:34, 7 June 2007 (EDT)