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, 16:46, June 27, 2023Created page with "===De Santis signs "strongest anti semitism bill in the United States".=== Lol, look how he refutes the false accusation of the lib dems. Rob, you listening? De Santis is Pro..."
===De Santis signs "strongest anti semitism bill in the United States".===
Lol, look how he refutes the false accusation of the lib dems. Rob, you listening? De Santis is Pro-Israel and Anti-Nazi, Period. Those "protestors" were probably lib dem plants in the first place, perhaps funded by left-winger Soros or some such Anti-American people.
"Florida Governor Ron DeSantis on Thursday signed a bill described by one of its co-sponsors as “the strongest antisemitism bill in the United States...” https://www.algemeiner.com/2023/04/27/florida-gov-ron-desantis-signs-antisemitism-bill/ [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 23:24, June 11, 2023 (EDT)
:No, I'm not listening. I'm paying attention the BS coming out of the MSM, like you do. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 00:02, June 12, 2023 (EDT)
:See, your arguments make no sense. You pay no attention to facts and critical thinking, and are swayed by emotion and MSM BS. So when the MSM goes against your boy, what difference does it make? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 00:07, June 12, 2023 (EDT)
See, my arguments refute yours, and make complete sense. You claimed some Nazi Anti-Semites may be supporting De Santis. I showed even if they support him, he doesn't support them, and condemned Anti-Semitism in a strong bill. Leave aside whether they were actual Nazis or Dem plants. As for the leftist media, the media is AGAINST De Santis now, if you haven't realized, especially after he's started doing so well in the polls. We are fighting against the leftist media, and leftists everywhere, yet we will persevere, work hard, and win by God's Grace. [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 00:14, June 12, 2023 (EDT)
:That does not matter, what you or I think. What matters is what MSM reports (basically, [[DNC]] talking points) which gullible people like yourself swallow wholesale and cannot be reasoned with. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 00:31, June 12, 2023 (EDT)
Right back at you. You swallow DNC propaganda against De Santis and then blame me for pointing it out. Not going to keep debating with you, but simply preach the Truth and move on. [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 00:34, June 12, 2023 (EDT)
::Not really. If you've actually been following, I've been silent on DeSantis and pretty much the upcoming primaries. Trump I only cite in relation to the [[Biden DOJ]]'s abuses. Confidentially, I'm appalled at the anti-DeSantis and anti-Trump accusations being hurled back and forth 7 months before voting even starts.
::The focus right now should be on educating the public about Ukrainian Nazism and the Kyiv puppet regime. It's far too early for electioneering when people are ignorant about the facts of what is happening in the world right now. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 00:53, June 12, 2023 (EDT)
Your "focus" can be on that. Since I obviously don't agree with you, my "focus" will be on different things, like Russian Neo-Stalinism.
As for it being too early, I don't agree with that either. Christian Conservatives should demand, at minimum, 6 week pro-life protections, especially because 55% would be ok with that (see below). Trump has refused to commit to that. Too bad. Christians/Conservatives then need to unite behind another Candidate, and De Santis obviously stands out. Trump calling himself "the Father of the Vaccine" and other issues also matter. You have freedom of speech to believe and say what you want. I have equal freedom to post other things I think are important.[[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 02:13, June 12, 2023 (EDT)
::You are deceived. "Neo-Stalinism" is Nazi propaganda you bit off wholesale. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 02:16, June 12, 2023 (EDT)
::You are going to look awfully foolish if come the fall of 2024 Trump is running against Biden's support for Nazism. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 02:23, June 12, 2023 (EDT)
:*[https://www.moonofalabama.org/2019/10/bidens-intervention-in-ukraine-and-ukraines-2016-election-meddling-are-matters-of-fact.html Ukraine's 2016 Election Meddling Are Matters of Fact] (yet you support the fascist regime).
:*See also [https://softpanorama.org/Skeptics/Political_skeptic/Corporatism/National_security_state/Intelligence_services/False_flag_operations/False_flag_malware/fbi_and_cia_contractor_crowdstike.shtml#a20191204X_cyberanalyst_george_eliason_claims_that_the_fancy_bear_who_hacked_the_dnc_server_is]
::[[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 02:38, June 12, 2023 (EDT)
I care about saving lives and helping people. I'm not concerned about what you or anyone else thinks. Only what God thinks.
I'd rather fight a good fight and not win then do nothing and just complain about LGBT, as you do. De Santis will stop that. 02:39, June 12, 2023 (EDT)
:Your Ukraine Nazi buddies murdered 14,000 people before Putin's special military operation intervened; Christians are concerned about truth, yet you don't want to hear it. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 02:48, June 12, 2023 (EDT)
The Kremlin has lied so often its lies are not credible anymore. They claimed they wanted to save "Russian speakers", then burnt Mariupul, predominantly Russian speaking, to the ground. The Kremlin has caused over 10 MN to suffer: "Since then, more than 8 million Ukrainians have registered as refugees in Europe and another 5.3 million have become internally displaced, according to the U.N. refugee agency. But these statistics reflect only a small part of the struggle civilians are going through." https://www.npr.org/sections/pictureshow/2023/04/20/1160074401/ukraine-russia-war-refugees-displaced-people You refuse to see the Kremlin is on the evil side in this fight, and Ukrainian Self-Defense is 100% Justified. Gonna shake the dust off my feet after this response to you on this subject, as you don't have the ears to hear the Truth. "He who hath ears, let him hear". [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 02:51, June 12, 2023 (EDT)
:LOL, [[NPR]].
:Here's the facts: Russia did not interfere in the 2016 elections - [[Ukraine]] did, and blamed Russia. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 02:53, June 12, 2023 (EDT)
:See for yourself: the [[Greenie weenies]], the German war party backing Ukraine, "[https://youtu.be/BpqQ1e_q_6E God is queer]". I hope your comfortable with your neo-nazi allies. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 05:02, June 12, 2023 (EDT)
=== De Santis Allies set up a school to train a $100 Million door knocking Army ===
Things looking better and better than ever for De Santis. I predict he will both beat the Donald (Duck) and go on to beat Biden. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/06/16/desantis-door-knocking-super-pac/ [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 01:33, June 17, 2023 (EDT)
I saw that someone posted on the news page that African leaders complained America under Biden was promoting LGBT. Yes, it's a problem, but De Santis is the only one who can stop it. Btw, that's not a reason to support Commie China. Commie China was responsible for Covid through callous negligence and Africa is one of the Continents that suffered most because of Covid. Someone should tell the leaders that. [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 01:33, June 17, 2023 (EDT)
:Oh, so now China is responsible for [[covid]] and not [[Fauci]] or the [[NIH]]; next you're going to tell us Russia blew up the [[Nordstream pipeline]]; destroyed the [[Kakhova dam]], shelled itself at the [[Zaporozhe nuclear power plant]], and committed the [[Bucha massacre]]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 01:43, June 17, 2023 (EDT)
::Hey, guys. Long time no talk. I took a sabbatical back in February for personal reasons, but I've been frequently visiting and observing since then.
::I'm now breaking my sabbatical to thank RobSmith for being the first admin (that I know of) to openly admit what I'd been saying all along: that America, not China, is responsible for COVID. I'd personally go further and accuse the CIA of being behind the Wuhan lab leak and framing CCP in order to create a justification for a future Sino-American war, but that's technically a seperate issue for debate.--[[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 14:18, June 20, 2023 (EDT)
:::Welcomer back, sincerely. Let me humbly also confess, your points on the ''[[The Grand Chessboard]]'' were prophetic at the time. And your discussions of NATO terrorism and [[Mike Pompeo]] have also given me cause to pause and think in the intervening months, as well. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 14:27, June 20, 2023 (EDT)
Where did Covid come from? Where is Wuhan located? Why did the Chinese Communist Party lie about it? China lied, People died, and the world bled. Yes, Fauci is also responsible, for his dictatorial Covid policies which De Santis courageously opposes, while Trump calls himself "Father of the Vaccine" and supported Fauci. I choose Freedom over Faucism, I choose De Santis over Trump, I choose Democracy over Communism.[[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 02:03, June 17, 2023 (EDT)
From your link: "Nearly 1 million Americans have died.[6]
Dr. Robert Redfield, former director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), told CNN that he believes the virus escaped from the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV) lab in China. “I do not believe this somehow came from a bat to a human.”[7]"
Who is responsible for those 1 MN American deaths, plus millions of others around the world? The CCP. Own it.
"Why does this matter? Because for years, the mainstream media dismissed the lab leak as a conspiracy theory, and as a result, the Chinese Communist Party and the Wuhan Institute of Virology were allowed to deny, deny, deny, while the virus ravaged the entire globe and killed millions of people ...
That is why I introduced the resolution to force the communist China to accept responsibility for its gross deception and mishandling of the coronavirus outbreak. If the Administration won’t stand up for the American people, the People’s House must.
Moreover, the United States’ response to the pandemic has cost trillions of dollars. China shouldn’t just be made to take responsibility for the pandemic, the CCP should pay for it. My bill would empower the U.S. to withhold payments on debt owed to China equal to the amount spent on pandemic response.
China lied, and people died. It’s time that China faces the consequences." https://mast.house.gov/china-debt [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 02:05, June 17, 2023 (EDT)
:You are simply [[brainwash]]ed to accept American [[xenophobic]] propaganda about any nation or people anywhere in the world. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 02:21, June 17, 2023 (EDT)
::Thank you RobSmith for admitting another thing I'd been saying all along: That much of what we hear in the news about China is neocon propaganda designed into conditioning us into supporting Brzezinski's xenophobic and ''genocidal'' "Eurasian Balkans" project.--[[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 14:18, June 20, 2023 (EDT)
That's Commie Propaganda, that opposing Commie Dictators/Terrorists like Mao or Xi is "xenophobic". I stand with the good Chinese people suffering under Communism and like Pope St. John Paul II, Ronald Raegan, Lech Walesa and others, want to liberate them from Communism.
"Can you name the greatest mass murderer of the 20th century? No, it wasn’t Hitler or Stalin. It was Mao Zedong.
According to the authoritative “Black Book of Communism,” an estimated 65 million Chinese died as a result of Mao’s repeated, merciless attempts to create a new “socialist” China. Anyone who got in his way was done away with—by execution, imprisonment or forced famine.
For Mao, the No. 1 enemy was the intellectual. The so-called Great Helmsman reveled in his blood-letting, boasting, “What’s so unusual about Emperor Shih Huang of the China Dynasty? He had buried alive 460 scholars only, but we have buried alive 46,000 scholars.” Mao was referring to a major “accomplishment” of the Great Cultural Revolution, which from 1966-1976 transformed China into a great House of Fear." https://www.heritage.org/asia/commentary/the-legacy-mao-zedong-mass-murder Communism is responsible for 100 MN+ Deaths. [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 02:48, June 17, 2023 (EDT)
:Sorry, but you're in bed with [[totalitarian]] [[fascist]]s who have destroyed American [[democracy]]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 03:30, June 17, 2023 (EDT)
Simple Projection on your part. I stand with De Santis, and De Santis will help take down those Covidian and Totalitarian Fascists you're in bed with. [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 04:17, June 17, 2023 (EDT)
:Where did DeSantis get $100 million from? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 08:18, June 17, 2023 (EDT)
:Trump we know is his own man. He spends his own money. He can't be bought. [https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/11/06/desantis-megadonor-billionaire-head-of-citadel-investments-ken-griffin-explains-why-he-purchased-ron-desantis-for-2024-and-what-he-expects-from-his-investment/ DeSantis Megadonor, Billionaire Head of Citadel Investments Ken Griffin, Explains Why He Purchased Ron DeSantis for 2024 and What He Expects from His Investment]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 08:27, June 17, 2023 (EDT)
:*[https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/01/26/heres-why-the-big-club-and-people-managing-ron-desantis-hate-donald-trump/ Here’s Why the Big Club and People Managing Ron DeSantis Hate Donald Trump]
:*[https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/06/08/as-expected-twitter-begins-limiting-reach-of-content-critical-of-ron-desantis/ As Expected Twitter Begins Limiting Reach of Content Critical of Ron DeSantis]
:*[https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/05/26/donald-trumps-america-first-vs-ron-desantis-and-the-multinationals/ Donald Trump’s America First -vs- Ron DeSantis and the Multinationals]
:*[https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/05/25/desantis-101/ DeSantis 101]
:*[https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/12/17/video-governor-ron-desantis-advocates-for-politicians-to-be-owned-by-billionaires-laments-campaign-finance-limits/ Video – Governor Ron DeSantis Advocates for Politicians to Be Owned by Billionaires, Laments Campaign Finance Limits]
:*[https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/03/24/reminder-the-core-battle-begins-within-the-republican-party/ REMINDER: The Core Battle Begins Within the Republican Party]
:*[https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/02/16/ron-desantis-wins-the-coveted-george-soros-endorsement-describing-desantis-as-shrewd-ruthless-and-ambitious/ Ron DeSantis Wins the Coveted George Soros Endorsement – Describing DeSantis as “Shrewd, Ruthless and Ambitious”…]
:*[https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/06/05/details-surface-of-how-ron-desantis-is-using-a-registered-foreign-agent-to-assemble-his-online-influence-campaign/ Details Surface of How Ron DeSantis Is Using a Registered Foreign Agent to Assemble His Online Influence Campaign]
:*[https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/06/14/big-picture-desantis-corporate-club-plan-and-some-site-note-reminders/ Big Picture DeSantis Corporate Club Plan and Some Site Note Reminders]
:*[https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/03/22/returning-to-neocon-roots-desantis-backtracks-on-his-tucker-carlson-ukraine-position-as-territorial-dispute-now-says-i-think-its-been-mischaracterized-and-putin-is-a-war-criminal/ Returning to Neocon Roots – DeSantis Backtracks on His Tucker Carlson Ukraine Position as Territorial Dispute, Now Says “I think it’s been mischaracterized,” and “Putin is a war criminal”]
::[[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 08:56, June 17, 2023 (EDT)
:Oh, I got ahead of myself. In response to the "$100 million door knocking campaign", we have these two reports from months ago:
:*[https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/04/10/team-desantis-focused-on-creating-astroturf-attendance-for-2024-campaign-rallies/ Team DeSantis Focused on Creating Astroturf Attendance for 2024 Campaign Rallies]
:*[https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/03/31/team-desantis-expand-astroturf-operations-hire-team-cruz-and-team-youngkin-immediately-begin-fake-push-polls/ Team DeSantis Expand Astroturf Operations – Hire Team Cruz and Team Youngkin, Immediately Begin Fake Push Polls]
:A bought-and-paid for mob by globalists and multinational corporate donors is not really a [[grassroots]] operation. It's more akin to a [[Soros Foundation]]/[[NED]] [[color revolution]]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 09:27, June 17, 2023 (EDT)
:The technical terms are Hertz-Rent-A-Mob or Astroturf. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 09:31, June 17, 2023 (EDT)
Trump sided with Disney in its efforts to corrupt kids with the LGBT Agenda against De Santis. That should tell you all you need to know about whose cause is righteous and whose is wicked, but unfortunately you don't have eyes to see. I suggest you stop cussing/swearing so much and praying much more. Pray and read the Word for at least 1-2 hours a day, and more on weekends. Ask God to give you Wisdom and guide you. Trump also criticized De Santis on his 6 Week Abortion Heart Beat Bill. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qecgxM-ErcU Trump did some ok things last time around, but his time has passed, and his recent stances are very problematic, including supporting Disney. De Santis will never bow to Child Genital Mutilation supporting Disney, no matter how many 100s of Millions of Dollars anyone throws at him, or the Woke Mob, and he has a large number of supporters, including wealthy ones. They have perfect right to support their Conservative Candidate.[[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 09:41, June 17, 2023 (EDT)
:Why should I believe you about Trump and Disney? I don't know, I didn't follow whatever it is your talking about, and you have a habit of using the same sources of information that lied about [[Donald Trump]] for the past 8 years. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 10:32, June 17, 2023 (EDT)
:My apologies, but I have more pressing issues with moral considerations and consequences than Mickey Mouse and Disney. Somebody's gotta do it, because you sure aren't doing it. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 10:34, June 17, 2023 (EDT)
A 20 second Google Search would have shown you, certainly less than the time it took you to give those 10 or so links above: "Gov. Ron DeSantis said by attacking him over his campaign against Disney, former President Donald Trump is "taking the side" of a multinational corporation sexualizing children.
"When he’s taking Disney’s side against me, I just kind of wonder. OK, I get that he wants to hit me, but don’t take the side of a multinational corporation that wants to sexualize kids," DeSantis said" [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 11:49, June 17, 2023 (EDT)
::Ooooh, now I understand. Trump and others criticized the DeSantis Admin mishandling of the lawsuit with Disney. That is not the same as "Trump sided with Disney." Man, you are never going to make it as a bona fide [[propagandist]] if you keep getting hoodwinked by BS. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 12:02, June 17, 2023 (EDT)
::This evidently is what you are talking about: [https://theconservativetreehouse.com/?s=Disney Team DeSantis Say They Have Been Hoodwinked by Disney Inc. as Orlando Board Changed Covenants Before New Officials Appointed]:
:::''"Days before the five DeSantis appointees showed up to take control of Walt Disney World zoning board in Orange County, the former board held a public hearing to codify pre-existing rules and covenants extending for “21 years after the death of the last survivor of the descendants of King Charles III, king of England living as of the date of the declaration.” Essentially, the new board is moot, except for deciding on roadways and bridges.
:::''As a result, a long and protracted legal battle is now anticipated, which will likely cost Florida taxpayers millions in lawyer fees as the appointees of the board try and challenge the construct put into place prior to their arrival."
::So apparently we caught you in a red-handed lie. Some might call it an "exaggeration." But now I have cause to doubt if you really care at all about victims of the LGBT agenda and genital mutilation. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 12:20, June 17, 2023 (EDT)
Nope, I spoke the Truth. Read this: "Florida's two most powerful Republican presidential hopefuls sparred on Memorial Day over Walt Disney World. Speaking on Fox & Friends show Monday morning, Gov. Ron DeSantis took former President Donald Trump to task for "taking the side of Disney in our fight down here in Florida." https://www.palmbeachpost.com/story/news/politics/2023/05/30/memorial-day-sparring-between-desantis-trump-on-woke-disney/70267192007/ De Santis is the only one who has the Courage of Conviction to take on Woke Mob and Win. [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 13:48, June 17, 2023 (EDT)
:You have no evidence that Trump ever "sided with Disney." Period. I wouldn't call you a malicious liar, but rather naive with poor judgement and reading comprehension skills. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 14:49, June 17, 2023 (EDT)
=== De Santis calls out the blasphemies and LGBT promotion of the Anti-Catholic hate group, the Dodgers ===
Trump nowhere to be found in combating LGBT. Surprise, surprise. Just complaining American establishments, including the American military, sadly, under both Biden and Trump, promoted and promotes the LGBT Agenda, solves nothing. De Santis can fight it and win. The solution is Good Conservatives like him, not WokeSymps like Trump.
"Good on the thousands who showed up at Dodger Stadium to protest this anti-Catholic hate group.
The virtually empty stadium for the game itself was a powerful image – Americans are fed up with the nonsense and are fighting back."
https://twitter.com/RonDeSantis/status/1670140388684840961
“We’re hoping that the Dodgers will see the amount of Catholics and Christians showing up here today peacefully,” protestor Anthony Rodriguez told KTLA outside of the stadium. “We’re showing that we’re not budging. We’ve drawn a line in the sand and we’re putting our faith first.” https://nypost.com/2023/06/16/dodgers-sisters-of-perpetual-indulgence-event-draws-thousands-of-protesters/ [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 08:07, June 18, 2023 (EDT)
:For the Dodger's game in question, the Dodgers recorded an attendance of 49,074, slightly higher than its league-leading average of 47,800.[https://www.forbes.com/sites/tylerroush/2023/06/17/dodgers-pride-night-draws-usual-turnout-mostly-empty-stadium-claims-prove-false/?sh=1c4760d037ef] But the attendance for the pre-game anti-Catholic group that was pro-LGBTQ was a pretty empty stadium.[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpD-O6MbVI4] [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 08:44, June 18, 2023 (EDT)
::Overtime, the pro-gay and pro-abortion blue states will lose electoral college votes relative to various red states because they are having a lower level of births plus many people are leaving their states to move to red states. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 08:50, June 18, 2023 (EDT)
:::Right now, the political betting websites say DeSantis has a 23% chance of winning the GOP primary while Trump has a 63.4% chance of winning the GOP primary.[https://electionbettingodds.com/GOPPrimary2024.html] And the website that compiles these statistics has a pretty good batting average in terms of their forecasts being right.[https://electionbettingodds.com/about.html] [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 08:55, June 18, 2023 (EDT)
Nice Info, Cons. Thank you. Good to know. God Bless. Of course, I expect that 23% will increase in time as De Santis campaigns more. [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 09:50, June 18, 2023 (EDT)
:There's a major contradiction here: both you guys supposedly oppose the spreading of the [[LGBT]] movement, yet both you guys firmly support spreading it to [[Ukraine]]. Some might call that [[hypocrisy]]. I just call it being misinformed and misguided. Until you reconcile that difference between foreign and domestic policy, you both will be just spinning your wheels, unable to build a coalition to move forward. These posts are just flatulence. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup>
::Spreading the LGBT movement to Ukraine? It's already in Ukraine. Anyways, I hope a Republican wins in the 2024 presidential election and a frozen conflict or armistice is worked out and US military funding to Ukraine is cut out or at least cut down. But if the war drags on for years, I would not be surprised. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 13:59, June 18, 2023 (EDT)
:::How did the LGBT movement get in Ukraine? Oh, that's right. With money from the Soros [[Open Society Foundation]] that Soros received from the [[US Agency for International Development]], according to the [[CIA]]'s [[color revolution]] playbook. I forgot. But never mind; interfering in another country' domestic affairs is illegal under international law, just as invading another country is supposedly illegal, as well. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 19:48, June 19, 2023 (EDT)
::::Ukraine gained its independence in 1991. I suspect its Western drift likely grew after the fall of the Soviet Union and further accelerated after its independence.
::::I hope this clarifies things for you. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 22:16, June 19, 2023 (EDT)
:::::Ukraine's Western drift was well underway when Ukrainian nationalists (whom the record will show in MPR/talk Archives that you praised as heroes a year ago) when they allied with Hitler to slaughter Jews, Russians, and Poles. When [[Galicia]] was part of the Polish, Austrian, and German Empires long before is when "Ukraine" (a misnomer) drifted to the West began. It never gave up its language, alphabet, or allegiance to the [[Orthodox Church]]. It never bent the knee to the Pope, or became Romanized under Polish hegemony; it never embraced Northen German Protestantism under the Prussian state, and never embraced Austrian Catholicism, either.) Under Clinton and the neocons however, it did begin embracing gay rights and atheism, and under Obama, with the help of the CIA, it saw a resurgence of its [[Russophobic]] Nazi past. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 00:04, June 20, 2023 (EDT)
=== De Santis channels Churchill: we will fight [the Woke] in education, in the halls of Congress ===
"DeSantis: As president, I'll recognize that the woke mind virus represents a war on the truth so we will wage a war on the woke. We will fight the woke in education, we will fight the woke in corporations, we will fight the woke in the halls of congress, we will never ever surrender to the woke mob ... we will leave Woke Ideology on the Dustbin of History" https://twitter.com/i/status/1665086349483835392
Churchill had said of the Nazis: "I have, myself, full confidence that if all do their duty, if nothing is neglected, and if the best arrangements are made, as they are being made, we shall prove ourselves once more able to defend our island home, to ride out the storm of war, and to outlive the menace of tyranny, if necessary for years, if necessary alone. At any rate, that is what we are going to try to do. That is the resolve of His Majesty's Government – every man of them. That is the will of Parliament and the nation. The British Empire and the French Republic, linked together in their cause and in their need, will defend to the death their native soil, aiding each other like good comrades to the utmost of their strength.
Even though large tracts of Europe and many old and famous States have fallen or may fall into the grip of the Gestapo and all the odious apparatus of Nazi rule, we shall not flag or fail. We shall go on to the end. We shall fight in France, we shall fight on the seas and oceans, we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, we shall defend our island, whatever the cost may be. We shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender." This is what Good Leaders do. Churchill did, De Santis is doing it in Florida, and will do it across America if he is elected. And not only in America, America has more influence on NATO than any other single country. The ideology that dominates America will dominate NATO too. That's why it's so deadly if Woke Ideology dominates America but so incredibly positive for us Conservative Christians if Conservative Christian ideology is dominant, as De Santis will do. [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 02:19, June 19, 2023 (EDT)
:Interesting Churchill quote. Too bad you don't understand it. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 14:51, June 19, 2023 (EDT)
:"The British Empire and the French Republic, linked together in their cause". Here's a clue: As late as 2012 when the [[Syrian]] [[regime change]] operation was under way, Wikipedia literally still reported "Syria won its independence in 1941 from [[France]] when [[France]] liberated Syria from [[France]]." [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 15:50, June 19, 2023 (EDT)
:But answering that question gets into the weeds a little bit, and how propaganda from World War II, that were lies then are lies today. Look at this fact: both the British Empire and Third French Republic were destroyed in WWII, relegated to the ash heap of history, never to arise again. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 16:02, June 19, 2023 (EDT)
=== Trump has lost six points in Republican voter polls to De Santis ===
Boom! Give it another 2 months, especially after the 1st Republican Presidential Debate, and I predict De Santis will be ahead of Trump. https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/donald-trump-loses-6-points-in-republican-voter-polls-following-indictment-report-101687314137749.html
Also, noteworthy, De Santis beats Biden. Trump does not: "Joe Biden trails Ron DeSantis 43% to 44% at present, according to the DailyMail.com/J.L. Partners survey ...In a hypothetical general election matchup, President Joe Biden has a slight lead over Trump 48 - 44 percent among all registered voters" https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/ron-desantis-fares-better-against-joe-biden-than-donald-trump-in-2024-contest-for-white-house-poll-shows-101687136521996.html [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 16:18, June 21, 2023 (EDT)
For those who claim De Santis needs to wait till 2028, if he did, Trump will lose, and then maybe run again in 2028? No, De Santis 2024.[[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 16:19, June 21, 2023 (EDT)
:Yes, it's interesting how many fake polls and astroturf $100 million can buy. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 16:30, June 21, 2023 (EDT)
:But I do wish to thank you and congratulate you on finding a news source that I would regard as more neutral and independent versus the blatant CIA & Nazi agitprop sources you've been in the habit of using. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 16:38, June 21, 2023 (EDT)
=== Trump support dips below 50% in latest poll ===
De Santis would almost certainly beat him in a head-to-head contest. Whether he can do so in a crowded field remains to be seen.
"In the latest poll, Trump received 47% of the vote, compared to 52% in the same poll one month prior in May.
The poll also asked respondents whether they would consider voting for a candidate or never consider voting for a candidate. Those who would consider voting for Trump remained the same at 31% from May. Those who said they would never vote for Trump went up from 16% in May to 23% in the latest poll." https://www.benzinga.com/general/politics/23/06/32937442/trump-support-dips-below-50-in-key-poll-is-an-overcrowded-field-hurting-odds-for-desantis [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 10:26, June 22, 2023 (EDT)
:Why does a nationwide poll of random adults not identified as Republican primary voters matter?
:Never mind. I know the answer. [[Propaganda]], intended for brainless boobs.
:A nationwide poll of random adults not identified as Republican primary voters is basically an apples and oranges argument. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 13:07, June 22, 2023 (EDT)
:You are even ignoring the history here. It's only June 2023. In late 2015, CNN gave Trump approximately $2 billion in free airtime with fake polls to promote Trump under the theory that Trump would be the easiest GOP candidate to beat, given Hillary's baggage and the fact that she was under criminal investigation by Comey and Strozk at that time, while dedicating no airtime to Hillary's criminal investigation. We've known since Trump won in 2016 that CNN will spare no efforts in lies to defeat Trump again, as it did in the 2020 election.
:Basically, if I were DeSantis and you were my campaign manager, I'd fire you for having such an openly disdainful attitude toward the stupidity of the American voter. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 13:18, June 22, 2023 (EDT)
How silly. It's you who would be fired. You didn't even read properly before going off on your rant: "Overall, 47% of Republicans and Republican-leaning registered voters say Trump is their first choice for the party’s nomination for president, down from 53% in a May CNN poll. Support for Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis held steady at 26% in the latest poll" https://edition.cnn.com/2023/06/20/politics/cnn-poll-trump-indictment-republicans-2024/index.html (1) They are Republican and Republican leaning registered voters (2) Support is down 5-6 points in the same poll (3) that too in only one month (4) so imagine 2 or 3 months from now (5) they show that Trump's support is on a downward trajectory. It's very clear you are not interested in beating the LGBT Agenda, in fact you have no clue how you would even begin go about beating it. We who do will continue to support De Santis. [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 14:27, June 22, 2023 (EDT)
:My apologies. You're right. It's CNN. I didn't read it. I assumed "random adults" meant "random adults". [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 14:40, June 22, 2023 (EDT)
:Question: "random adults" would include non-voting [[illegal immigrants]], wouldn't it? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 14:47, June 22, 2023 (EDT)
===DeSantis Helped Conceal The Truth About Jeffrey Epstein’s Sex Crimes In Florida===
[https://loomered.com/2023/06/21/how-ron-desantis-helped-conceal-the-truth-about-jeffrey-epsteins-sex-crimes-in-florida-the-same-year-epstein-allegedly-killed-himself/ Hmm, is this MPR-worthy?] [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 13:35, June 22, 2023 (EDT)
=== De Santis with Kayleigh McEnany on Fox ===
[pls leave this at the bottom of the page if possible. only the interviews, rest can go on top. thanx]
McEnany was a big time supporter of Trump last time. She's keeping her options open this time, like many others, and likes De Santis a lot.
This is a hoax:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqYkfZ4XKHs
The Anti-Woke Majority is getting stronger:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcCMKUtOkg4
It's simple. If you care about defeating Woke, De Santis is objectively the best Candidate there is. That's true on mask/vaccine mandates/Covidianism as a whole as well. "Live Free or Die", right? [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 17:19, June 22, 2023 (EDT)
:Sundance of the Conservativetreehouse just did an interesting hit piece on DeSantis. You should read it, so at least you are [https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/06/22/everyone-is-going-to-think-im-nuts-but-im-not-nuts/ prepared for what may be coming]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 17:28, June 22, 2023 (EDT)
I'll give it a read. Meanwhile, listen to these two interviews, this time of Trump:
"We have lost people because you supported the Jab" - Republican Voters to Trump https://twitter.com/i/status/1671600984059944960
"TRUMP: “For some reason” people don’t like the mRNA COVID shots.
Trump once again refuses to acknowledge any of the adverse effects." https://twitter.com/i/status/1671293882481483778 [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Chri
:Nah, I don't follow these day-to-day events related to 2024 presidential election politics - I don't have to - Sundance (and a few others) keep me informed. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 17:41, June 22, 2023 (EDT)
:(ec) Trump, DeSantis, even Biden don't interest me at all ''viv-a-vis'' as being 2024 candidates at the moment. I somewhat keep on eye on Biden cause when the [[psychosis]] finally breaks, we'll be stuck with Kamala for awhile. [[RFK Jr]] I promote cause he offers an alternative to Biden (but I don't need to hang on his every word). Zelensky makes me wanna puke, even just the site of him, so I handled his whole life and career in a few days back in February 2022. I am riveted moment-by-moment on the fate of Zelensky's two top Nazi advisors, [[Zaluzhny]] & [[Budanov]]. President Xi I pay little attention to, and will have to update some content sooner or later. [[President Putin]] on the other hand, I have to pay attention to every word spoken in public - cause you cannot get it in Western [[mainstream media]], only lies that threaten my very existence and life on this planet. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 17:53, June 22, 2023 (EDT)
Read your article. Very poorly argued. Take this: "The WHOLE reason DeSantis was the most popular Governor throughout his first term, was a CON; EVERY action he took as Governor, was a political calculation planned and intended to create the image of “the free State of Florida” and RDS as “Trump lite”."
Rebuttal: (1) De Santis isn't Trump lite; he is his own man, it's his contrast with Trump, e.g. his strong opposition to the LGBT Agenda, and Vaccine Mandates, that makes his candidacy so interesting; (2) De Santis is a Solid Pro-Life Conservative, he's enacted a 6 week Abortion Heartbeat Ban. (3) De Santis has Military Service, Trump does not. I could go on. The contrast between the two is very evident. We are not trying to destroy D. Trump, btw, he can continue to live in Florida, and De Santis will almost certainly pardon him if he is indicted or something. But we are clear-eyed on the need to defeat him in the Primaries in order for Anti-LGBT, 6 week pro life bills etc to become part of the National Republican Agenda. That's because De Santis and Trump represent two very different agendas of conservatism. [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 17:45, June 22, 2023 (EDT)
:"he is his own man" - No he's not. He's owned by the people who gave him $100 million for an astroturf door knocking campaign, per your own source. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 17:53, June 22, 2023 (EDT)
:Look, I understand what's going on here. It's a generational thing. The [[Millennial]] generation is the majority now and wants to take over. We boomers went through the same thing when we had to wait for [[Papa Bush]] and [[Bob Dole]] to get out of the way (while the "Best and the Brightest" of our generation - [[Bill Clinton]] & [[Baby Bush]] carved our footprints into the sands of time).
:If Trump weren't running, I'd probably be behind DeSantis 100%. They only thing is, Trump is ''the only'' candidate in about 40 years who understands the problems and what needs to be done, whereas DeSantis ''is'' part of the problems that have plagued the American political system for as long as I can remember. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 18:04, June 22, 2023 (EDT)
::I'm a millennial, and I wouldn't back DeSantis even if Trump weren't in the race. I'd vote third party before voting for that man.--[[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 22:34, June 23, 2023 (EDT)
With the release of Matt Walsh's "What is a Woman" exposing the Trans LGBT Agenda, and its huge audience of millions of viewers, following a retweet by Elon Musk, the momentum and opportunity of a lifetime is here to rise up and banish the Woke Agenda forever. De Santis did it in Florida, he can do it across America. Unfortunately, under Trump, America continued to promote LGBT policies, even pushing other nations to do so. America has vast international influence also, whether on Europe or even beyond. The ideology that dominates America will, in large measure, dominate or be influential in much of the world. That's why I'm paying attention to it, and praying God's Will be done. Let's see how it goes. The more I hear/see from De Santis, the more I like it. You can't run or be a credible candidate without being able to raise some money. But De Santis is not owned by anyone, his not backing down on Disney and being strongly anti-woke shows that. [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 18:23, June 22, 2023 (EDT)
:Now you raise some interesting and valid points. I fear tho you don't quite understand the problem. And the president is not a messiah.
:*''Unfortunately, under Trump, America continued to promote LGBT policies, even pushing other nations to do so.'' BINGO. Now, can you explain why that is so? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 18:32, June 22, 2023 (EDT)
Speaking of Matt Walsh: "Ep. 1183 - The Plot By LGBT Activists To Stigmatize Sanity And Normalcy" https://twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1671965419417264128 [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 18:24, June 22, 2023 (EDT)
:Lemme 'splain how we got here. In 1980, [[Ronald Reagan]] was the oldest person ever elected president at the age of 70 cause the boomer generation - then between 25-35 - of which there were many (why they call them boomers) and a clear majority was the generation of ''sex, drugs, rock n' roll''. So the World War II generation wasn't ready to hand over leadership to its irresponsible children. Boomers even agreed. It was another 12 years before a boomer, then in his 40s, was elected president.
:What were the first things boomers did when they took over the [[White House]]? Answer: (1) 'gays in the military'; (2) 'medical marijuana'. The rest is history.
:'Gays in the military' incrementally became today's [[transgender]] movement; 'medical marijuana' incrementally became full scale drug 'decriminalization' and legalization. (''A little leaven leaventh the whole lump.'')
:Moral of the story: Don't be peeing your pants because of the age difference and a bunch of old fuddy duddies clinging to power. Understand how we got to where [[gay marriage]] is now a [[constitutional]], God-given right that even an elected president cannot take away. And why the United States [[blackmail]]s foreign countries with sanctions as "human rights abusers" if they do not decriminalize homosexuality or allow gay marriage. Your blind support for Ukrainian fascism tells me you don't understand anything about presidential politics, or the American political process. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 01:18, June 23, 2023 (EDT)
Lol, look how he refutes the false accusation of the lib dems. Rob, you listening? De Santis is Pro-Israel and Anti-Nazi, Period. Those "protestors" were probably lib dem plants in the first place, perhaps funded by left-winger Soros or some such Anti-American people.
"Florida Governor Ron DeSantis on Thursday signed a bill described by one of its co-sponsors as “the strongest antisemitism bill in the United States...” https://www.algemeiner.com/2023/04/27/florida-gov-ron-desantis-signs-antisemitism-bill/ [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 23:24, June 11, 2023 (EDT)
:No, I'm not listening. I'm paying attention the BS coming out of the MSM, like you do. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 00:02, June 12, 2023 (EDT)
:See, your arguments make no sense. You pay no attention to facts and critical thinking, and are swayed by emotion and MSM BS. So when the MSM goes against your boy, what difference does it make? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 00:07, June 12, 2023 (EDT)
See, my arguments refute yours, and make complete sense. You claimed some Nazi Anti-Semites may be supporting De Santis. I showed even if they support him, he doesn't support them, and condemned Anti-Semitism in a strong bill. Leave aside whether they were actual Nazis or Dem plants. As for the leftist media, the media is AGAINST De Santis now, if you haven't realized, especially after he's started doing so well in the polls. We are fighting against the leftist media, and leftists everywhere, yet we will persevere, work hard, and win by God's Grace. [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 00:14, June 12, 2023 (EDT)
:That does not matter, what you or I think. What matters is what MSM reports (basically, [[DNC]] talking points) which gullible people like yourself swallow wholesale and cannot be reasoned with. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 00:31, June 12, 2023 (EDT)
Right back at you. You swallow DNC propaganda against De Santis and then blame me for pointing it out. Not going to keep debating with you, but simply preach the Truth and move on. [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 00:34, June 12, 2023 (EDT)
::Not really. If you've actually been following, I've been silent on DeSantis and pretty much the upcoming primaries. Trump I only cite in relation to the [[Biden DOJ]]'s abuses. Confidentially, I'm appalled at the anti-DeSantis and anti-Trump accusations being hurled back and forth 7 months before voting even starts.
::The focus right now should be on educating the public about Ukrainian Nazism and the Kyiv puppet regime. It's far too early for electioneering when people are ignorant about the facts of what is happening in the world right now. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 00:53, June 12, 2023 (EDT)
Your "focus" can be on that. Since I obviously don't agree with you, my "focus" will be on different things, like Russian Neo-Stalinism.
As for it being too early, I don't agree with that either. Christian Conservatives should demand, at minimum, 6 week pro-life protections, especially because 55% would be ok with that (see below). Trump has refused to commit to that. Too bad. Christians/Conservatives then need to unite behind another Candidate, and De Santis obviously stands out. Trump calling himself "the Father of the Vaccine" and other issues also matter. You have freedom of speech to believe and say what you want. I have equal freedom to post other things I think are important.[[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 02:13, June 12, 2023 (EDT)
::You are deceived. "Neo-Stalinism" is Nazi propaganda you bit off wholesale. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 02:16, June 12, 2023 (EDT)
::You are going to look awfully foolish if come the fall of 2024 Trump is running against Biden's support for Nazism. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 02:23, June 12, 2023 (EDT)
:*[https://www.moonofalabama.org/2019/10/bidens-intervention-in-ukraine-and-ukraines-2016-election-meddling-are-matters-of-fact.html Ukraine's 2016 Election Meddling Are Matters of Fact] (yet you support the fascist regime).
:*See also [https://softpanorama.org/Skeptics/Political_skeptic/Corporatism/National_security_state/Intelligence_services/False_flag_operations/False_flag_malware/fbi_and_cia_contractor_crowdstike.shtml#a20191204X_cyberanalyst_george_eliason_claims_that_the_fancy_bear_who_hacked_the_dnc_server_is]
::[[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 02:38, June 12, 2023 (EDT)
I care about saving lives and helping people. I'm not concerned about what you or anyone else thinks. Only what God thinks.
I'd rather fight a good fight and not win then do nothing and just complain about LGBT, as you do. De Santis will stop that. 02:39, June 12, 2023 (EDT)
:Your Ukraine Nazi buddies murdered 14,000 people before Putin's special military operation intervened; Christians are concerned about truth, yet you don't want to hear it. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 02:48, June 12, 2023 (EDT)
The Kremlin has lied so often its lies are not credible anymore. They claimed they wanted to save "Russian speakers", then burnt Mariupul, predominantly Russian speaking, to the ground. The Kremlin has caused over 10 MN to suffer: "Since then, more than 8 million Ukrainians have registered as refugees in Europe and another 5.3 million have become internally displaced, according to the U.N. refugee agency. But these statistics reflect only a small part of the struggle civilians are going through." https://www.npr.org/sections/pictureshow/2023/04/20/1160074401/ukraine-russia-war-refugees-displaced-people You refuse to see the Kremlin is on the evil side in this fight, and Ukrainian Self-Defense is 100% Justified. Gonna shake the dust off my feet after this response to you on this subject, as you don't have the ears to hear the Truth. "He who hath ears, let him hear". [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 02:51, June 12, 2023 (EDT)
:LOL, [[NPR]].
:Here's the facts: Russia did not interfere in the 2016 elections - [[Ukraine]] did, and blamed Russia. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 02:53, June 12, 2023 (EDT)
:See for yourself: the [[Greenie weenies]], the German war party backing Ukraine, "[https://youtu.be/BpqQ1e_q_6E God is queer]". I hope your comfortable with your neo-nazi allies. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 05:02, June 12, 2023 (EDT)
=== De Santis Allies set up a school to train a $100 Million door knocking Army ===
Things looking better and better than ever for De Santis. I predict he will both beat the Donald (Duck) and go on to beat Biden. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/06/16/desantis-door-knocking-super-pac/ [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 01:33, June 17, 2023 (EDT)
I saw that someone posted on the news page that African leaders complained America under Biden was promoting LGBT. Yes, it's a problem, but De Santis is the only one who can stop it. Btw, that's not a reason to support Commie China. Commie China was responsible for Covid through callous negligence and Africa is one of the Continents that suffered most because of Covid. Someone should tell the leaders that. [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 01:33, June 17, 2023 (EDT)
:Oh, so now China is responsible for [[covid]] and not [[Fauci]] or the [[NIH]]; next you're going to tell us Russia blew up the [[Nordstream pipeline]]; destroyed the [[Kakhova dam]], shelled itself at the [[Zaporozhe nuclear power plant]], and committed the [[Bucha massacre]]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 01:43, June 17, 2023 (EDT)
::Hey, guys. Long time no talk. I took a sabbatical back in February for personal reasons, but I've been frequently visiting and observing since then.
::I'm now breaking my sabbatical to thank RobSmith for being the first admin (that I know of) to openly admit what I'd been saying all along: that America, not China, is responsible for COVID. I'd personally go further and accuse the CIA of being behind the Wuhan lab leak and framing CCP in order to create a justification for a future Sino-American war, but that's technically a seperate issue for debate.--[[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 14:18, June 20, 2023 (EDT)
:::Welcomer back, sincerely. Let me humbly also confess, your points on the ''[[The Grand Chessboard]]'' were prophetic at the time. And your discussions of NATO terrorism and [[Mike Pompeo]] have also given me cause to pause and think in the intervening months, as well. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 14:27, June 20, 2023 (EDT)
Where did Covid come from? Where is Wuhan located? Why did the Chinese Communist Party lie about it? China lied, People died, and the world bled. Yes, Fauci is also responsible, for his dictatorial Covid policies which De Santis courageously opposes, while Trump calls himself "Father of the Vaccine" and supported Fauci. I choose Freedom over Faucism, I choose De Santis over Trump, I choose Democracy over Communism.[[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 02:03, June 17, 2023 (EDT)
From your link: "Nearly 1 million Americans have died.[6]
Dr. Robert Redfield, former director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), told CNN that he believes the virus escaped from the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV) lab in China. “I do not believe this somehow came from a bat to a human.”[7]"
Who is responsible for those 1 MN American deaths, plus millions of others around the world? The CCP. Own it.
"Why does this matter? Because for years, the mainstream media dismissed the lab leak as a conspiracy theory, and as a result, the Chinese Communist Party and the Wuhan Institute of Virology were allowed to deny, deny, deny, while the virus ravaged the entire globe and killed millions of people ...
That is why I introduced the resolution to force the communist China to accept responsibility for its gross deception and mishandling of the coronavirus outbreak. If the Administration won’t stand up for the American people, the People’s House must.
Moreover, the United States’ response to the pandemic has cost trillions of dollars. China shouldn’t just be made to take responsibility for the pandemic, the CCP should pay for it. My bill would empower the U.S. to withhold payments on debt owed to China equal to the amount spent on pandemic response.
China lied, and people died. It’s time that China faces the consequences." https://mast.house.gov/china-debt [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 02:05, June 17, 2023 (EDT)
:You are simply [[brainwash]]ed to accept American [[xenophobic]] propaganda about any nation or people anywhere in the world. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 02:21, June 17, 2023 (EDT)
::Thank you RobSmith for admitting another thing I'd been saying all along: That much of what we hear in the news about China is neocon propaganda designed into conditioning us into supporting Brzezinski's xenophobic and ''genocidal'' "Eurasian Balkans" project.--[[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 14:18, June 20, 2023 (EDT)
That's Commie Propaganda, that opposing Commie Dictators/Terrorists like Mao or Xi is "xenophobic". I stand with the good Chinese people suffering under Communism and like Pope St. John Paul II, Ronald Raegan, Lech Walesa and others, want to liberate them from Communism.
"Can you name the greatest mass murderer of the 20th century? No, it wasn’t Hitler or Stalin. It was Mao Zedong.
According to the authoritative “Black Book of Communism,” an estimated 65 million Chinese died as a result of Mao’s repeated, merciless attempts to create a new “socialist” China. Anyone who got in his way was done away with—by execution, imprisonment or forced famine.
For Mao, the No. 1 enemy was the intellectual. The so-called Great Helmsman reveled in his blood-letting, boasting, “What’s so unusual about Emperor Shih Huang of the China Dynasty? He had buried alive 460 scholars only, but we have buried alive 46,000 scholars.” Mao was referring to a major “accomplishment” of the Great Cultural Revolution, which from 1966-1976 transformed China into a great House of Fear." https://www.heritage.org/asia/commentary/the-legacy-mao-zedong-mass-murder Communism is responsible for 100 MN+ Deaths. [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 02:48, June 17, 2023 (EDT)
:Sorry, but you're in bed with [[totalitarian]] [[fascist]]s who have destroyed American [[democracy]]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 03:30, June 17, 2023 (EDT)
Simple Projection on your part. I stand with De Santis, and De Santis will help take down those Covidian and Totalitarian Fascists you're in bed with. [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 04:17, June 17, 2023 (EDT)
:Where did DeSantis get $100 million from? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 08:18, June 17, 2023 (EDT)
:Trump we know is his own man. He spends his own money. He can't be bought. [https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/11/06/desantis-megadonor-billionaire-head-of-citadel-investments-ken-griffin-explains-why-he-purchased-ron-desantis-for-2024-and-what-he-expects-from-his-investment/ DeSantis Megadonor, Billionaire Head of Citadel Investments Ken Griffin, Explains Why He Purchased Ron DeSantis for 2024 and What He Expects from His Investment]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 08:27, June 17, 2023 (EDT)
:*[https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/01/26/heres-why-the-big-club-and-people-managing-ron-desantis-hate-donald-trump/ Here’s Why the Big Club and People Managing Ron DeSantis Hate Donald Trump]
:*[https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/06/08/as-expected-twitter-begins-limiting-reach-of-content-critical-of-ron-desantis/ As Expected Twitter Begins Limiting Reach of Content Critical of Ron DeSantis]
:*[https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/05/26/donald-trumps-america-first-vs-ron-desantis-and-the-multinationals/ Donald Trump’s America First -vs- Ron DeSantis and the Multinationals]
:*[https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/05/25/desantis-101/ DeSantis 101]
:*[https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/12/17/video-governor-ron-desantis-advocates-for-politicians-to-be-owned-by-billionaires-laments-campaign-finance-limits/ Video – Governor Ron DeSantis Advocates for Politicians to Be Owned by Billionaires, Laments Campaign Finance Limits]
:*[https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/03/24/reminder-the-core-battle-begins-within-the-republican-party/ REMINDER: The Core Battle Begins Within the Republican Party]
:*[https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/02/16/ron-desantis-wins-the-coveted-george-soros-endorsement-describing-desantis-as-shrewd-ruthless-and-ambitious/ Ron DeSantis Wins the Coveted George Soros Endorsement – Describing DeSantis as “Shrewd, Ruthless and Ambitious”…]
:*[https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/06/05/details-surface-of-how-ron-desantis-is-using-a-registered-foreign-agent-to-assemble-his-online-influence-campaign/ Details Surface of How Ron DeSantis Is Using a Registered Foreign Agent to Assemble His Online Influence Campaign]
:*[https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/06/14/big-picture-desantis-corporate-club-plan-and-some-site-note-reminders/ Big Picture DeSantis Corporate Club Plan and Some Site Note Reminders]
:*[https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/03/22/returning-to-neocon-roots-desantis-backtracks-on-his-tucker-carlson-ukraine-position-as-territorial-dispute-now-says-i-think-its-been-mischaracterized-and-putin-is-a-war-criminal/ Returning to Neocon Roots – DeSantis Backtracks on His Tucker Carlson Ukraine Position as Territorial Dispute, Now Says “I think it’s been mischaracterized,” and “Putin is a war criminal”]
::[[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 08:56, June 17, 2023 (EDT)
:Oh, I got ahead of myself. In response to the "$100 million door knocking campaign", we have these two reports from months ago:
:*[https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/04/10/team-desantis-focused-on-creating-astroturf-attendance-for-2024-campaign-rallies/ Team DeSantis Focused on Creating Astroturf Attendance for 2024 Campaign Rallies]
:*[https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/03/31/team-desantis-expand-astroturf-operations-hire-team-cruz-and-team-youngkin-immediately-begin-fake-push-polls/ Team DeSantis Expand Astroturf Operations – Hire Team Cruz and Team Youngkin, Immediately Begin Fake Push Polls]
:A bought-and-paid for mob by globalists and multinational corporate donors is not really a [[grassroots]] operation. It's more akin to a [[Soros Foundation]]/[[NED]] [[color revolution]]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 09:27, June 17, 2023 (EDT)
:The technical terms are Hertz-Rent-A-Mob or Astroturf. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 09:31, June 17, 2023 (EDT)
Trump sided with Disney in its efforts to corrupt kids with the LGBT Agenda against De Santis. That should tell you all you need to know about whose cause is righteous and whose is wicked, but unfortunately you don't have eyes to see. I suggest you stop cussing/swearing so much and praying much more. Pray and read the Word for at least 1-2 hours a day, and more on weekends. Ask God to give you Wisdom and guide you. Trump also criticized De Santis on his 6 Week Abortion Heart Beat Bill. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qecgxM-ErcU Trump did some ok things last time around, but his time has passed, and his recent stances are very problematic, including supporting Disney. De Santis will never bow to Child Genital Mutilation supporting Disney, no matter how many 100s of Millions of Dollars anyone throws at him, or the Woke Mob, and he has a large number of supporters, including wealthy ones. They have perfect right to support their Conservative Candidate.[[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 09:41, June 17, 2023 (EDT)
:Why should I believe you about Trump and Disney? I don't know, I didn't follow whatever it is your talking about, and you have a habit of using the same sources of information that lied about [[Donald Trump]] for the past 8 years. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 10:32, June 17, 2023 (EDT)
:My apologies, but I have more pressing issues with moral considerations and consequences than Mickey Mouse and Disney. Somebody's gotta do it, because you sure aren't doing it. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 10:34, June 17, 2023 (EDT)
A 20 second Google Search would have shown you, certainly less than the time it took you to give those 10 or so links above: "Gov. Ron DeSantis said by attacking him over his campaign against Disney, former President Donald Trump is "taking the side" of a multinational corporation sexualizing children.
"When he’s taking Disney’s side against me, I just kind of wonder. OK, I get that he wants to hit me, but don’t take the side of a multinational corporation that wants to sexualize kids," DeSantis said" [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 11:49, June 17, 2023 (EDT)
::Ooooh, now I understand. Trump and others criticized the DeSantis Admin mishandling of the lawsuit with Disney. That is not the same as "Trump sided with Disney." Man, you are never going to make it as a bona fide [[propagandist]] if you keep getting hoodwinked by BS. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 12:02, June 17, 2023 (EDT)
::This evidently is what you are talking about: [https://theconservativetreehouse.com/?s=Disney Team DeSantis Say They Have Been Hoodwinked by Disney Inc. as Orlando Board Changed Covenants Before New Officials Appointed]:
:::''"Days before the five DeSantis appointees showed up to take control of Walt Disney World zoning board in Orange County, the former board held a public hearing to codify pre-existing rules and covenants extending for “21 years after the death of the last survivor of the descendants of King Charles III, king of England living as of the date of the declaration.” Essentially, the new board is moot, except for deciding on roadways and bridges.
:::''As a result, a long and protracted legal battle is now anticipated, which will likely cost Florida taxpayers millions in lawyer fees as the appointees of the board try and challenge the construct put into place prior to their arrival."
::So apparently we caught you in a red-handed lie. Some might call it an "exaggeration." But now I have cause to doubt if you really care at all about victims of the LGBT agenda and genital mutilation. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 12:20, June 17, 2023 (EDT)
Nope, I spoke the Truth. Read this: "Florida's two most powerful Republican presidential hopefuls sparred on Memorial Day over Walt Disney World. Speaking on Fox & Friends show Monday morning, Gov. Ron DeSantis took former President Donald Trump to task for "taking the side of Disney in our fight down here in Florida." https://www.palmbeachpost.com/story/news/politics/2023/05/30/memorial-day-sparring-between-desantis-trump-on-woke-disney/70267192007/ De Santis is the only one who has the Courage of Conviction to take on Woke Mob and Win. [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 13:48, June 17, 2023 (EDT)
:You have no evidence that Trump ever "sided with Disney." Period. I wouldn't call you a malicious liar, but rather naive with poor judgement and reading comprehension skills. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 14:49, June 17, 2023 (EDT)
=== De Santis calls out the blasphemies and LGBT promotion of the Anti-Catholic hate group, the Dodgers ===
Trump nowhere to be found in combating LGBT. Surprise, surprise. Just complaining American establishments, including the American military, sadly, under both Biden and Trump, promoted and promotes the LGBT Agenda, solves nothing. De Santis can fight it and win. The solution is Good Conservatives like him, not WokeSymps like Trump.
"Good on the thousands who showed up at Dodger Stadium to protest this anti-Catholic hate group.
The virtually empty stadium for the game itself was a powerful image – Americans are fed up with the nonsense and are fighting back."
https://twitter.com/RonDeSantis/status/1670140388684840961
“We’re hoping that the Dodgers will see the amount of Catholics and Christians showing up here today peacefully,” protestor Anthony Rodriguez told KTLA outside of the stadium. “We’re showing that we’re not budging. We’ve drawn a line in the sand and we’re putting our faith first.” https://nypost.com/2023/06/16/dodgers-sisters-of-perpetual-indulgence-event-draws-thousands-of-protesters/ [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 08:07, June 18, 2023 (EDT)
:For the Dodger's game in question, the Dodgers recorded an attendance of 49,074, slightly higher than its league-leading average of 47,800.[https://www.forbes.com/sites/tylerroush/2023/06/17/dodgers-pride-night-draws-usual-turnout-mostly-empty-stadium-claims-prove-false/?sh=1c4760d037ef] But the attendance for the pre-game anti-Catholic group that was pro-LGBTQ was a pretty empty stadium.[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpD-O6MbVI4] [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 08:44, June 18, 2023 (EDT)
::Overtime, the pro-gay and pro-abortion blue states will lose electoral college votes relative to various red states because they are having a lower level of births plus many people are leaving their states to move to red states. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 08:50, June 18, 2023 (EDT)
:::Right now, the political betting websites say DeSantis has a 23% chance of winning the GOP primary while Trump has a 63.4% chance of winning the GOP primary.[https://electionbettingodds.com/GOPPrimary2024.html] And the website that compiles these statistics has a pretty good batting average in terms of their forecasts being right.[https://electionbettingodds.com/about.html] [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 08:55, June 18, 2023 (EDT)
Nice Info, Cons. Thank you. Good to know. God Bless. Of course, I expect that 23% will increase in time as De Santis campaigns more. [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 09:50, June 18, 2023 (EDT)
:There's a major contradiction here: both you guys supposedly oppose the spreading of the [[LGBT]] movement, yet both you guys firmly support spreading it to [[Ukraine]]. Some might call that [[hypocrisy]]. I just call it being misinformed and misguided. Until you reconcile that difference between foreign and domestic policy, you both will be just spinning your wheels, unable to build a coalition to move forward. These posts are just flatulence. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup>
::Spreading the LGBT movement to Ukraine? It's already in Ukraine. Anyways, I hope a Republican wins in the 2024 presidential election and a frozen conflict or armistice is worked out and US military funding to Ukraine is cut out or at least cut down. But if the war drags on for years, I would not be surprised. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 13:59, June 18, 2023 (EDT)
:::How did the LGBT movement get in Ukraine? Oh, that's right. With money from the Soros [[Open Society Foundation]] that Soros received from the [[US Agency for International Development]], according to the [[CIA]]'s [[color revolution]] playbook. I forgot. But never mind; interfering in another country' domestic affairs is illegal under international law, just as invading another country is supposedly illegal, as well. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 19:48, June 19, 2023 (EDT)
::::Ukraine gained its independence in 1991. I suspect its Western drift likely grew after the fall of the Soviet Union and further accelerated after its independence.
::::I hope this clarifies things for you. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 22:16, June 19, 2023 (EDT)
:::::Ukraine's Western drift was well underway when Ukrainian nationalists (whom the record will show in MPR/talk Archives that you praised as heroes a year ago) when they allied with Hitler to slaughter Jews, Russians, and Poles. When [[Galicia]] was part of the Polish, Austrian, and German Empires long before is when "Ukraine" (a misnomer) drifted to the West began. It never gave up its language, alphabet, or allegiance to the [[Orthodox Church]]. It never bent the knee to the Pope, or became Romanized under Polish hegemony; it never embraced Northen German Protestantism under the Prussian state, and never embraced Austrian Catholicism, either.) Under Clinton and the neocons however, it did begin embracing gay rights and atheism, and under Obama, with the help of the CIA, it saw a resurgence of its [[Russophobic]] Nazi past. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 00:04, June 20, 2023 (EDT)
=== De Santis channels Churchill: we will fight [the Woke] in education, in the halls of Congress ===
"DeSantis: As president, I'll recognize that the woke mind virus represents a war on the truth so we will wage a war on the woke. We will fight the woke in education, we will fight the woke in corporations, we will fight the woke in the halls of congress, we will never ever surrender to the woke mob ... we will leave Woke Ideology on the Dustbin of History" https://twitter.com/i/status/1665086349483835392
Churchill had said of the Nazis: "I have, myself, full confidence that if all do their duty, if nothing is neglected, and if the best arrangements are made, as they are being made, we shall prove ourselves once more able to defend our island home, to ride out the storm of war, and to outlive the menace of tyranny, if necessary for years, if necessary alone. At any rate, that is what we are going to try to do. That is the resolve of His Majesty's Government – every man of them. That is the will of Parliament and the nation. The British Empire and the French Republic, linked together in their cause and in their need, will defend to the death their native soil, aiding each other like good comrades to the utmost of their strength.
Even though large tracts of Europe and many old and famous States have fallen or may fall into the grip of the Gestapo and all the odious apparatus of Nazi rule, we shall not flag or fail. We shall go on to the end. We shall fight in France, we shall fight on the seas and oceans, we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, we shall defend our island, whatever the cost may be. We shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender." This is what Good Leaders do. Churchill did, De Santis is doing it in Florida, and will do it across America if he is elected. And not only in America, America has more influence on NATO than any other single country. The ideology that dominates America will dominate NATO too. That's why it's so deadly if Woke Ideology dominates America but so incredibly positive for us Conservative Christians if Conservative Christian ideology is dominant, as De Santis will do. [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 02:19, June 19, 2023 (EDT)
:Interesting Churchill quote. Too bad you don't understand it. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 14:51, June 19, 2023 (EDT)
:"The British Empire and the French Republic, linked together in their cause". Here's a clue: As late as 2012 when the [[Syrian]] [[regime change]] operation was under way, Wikipedia literally still reported "Syria won its independence in 1941 from [[France]] when [[France]] liberated Syria from [[France]]." [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 15:50, June 19, 2023 (EDT)
:But answering that question gets into the weeds a little bit, and how propaganda from World War II, that were lies then are lies today. Look at this fact: both the British Empire and Third French Republic were destroyed in WWII, relegated to the ash heap of history, never to arise again. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 16:02, June 19, 2023 (EDT)
=== Trump has lost six points in Republican voter polls to De Santis ===
Boom! Give it another 2 months, especially after the 1st Republican Presidential Debate, and I predict De Santis will be ahead of Trump. https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/donald-trump-loses-6-points-in-republican-voter-polls-following-indictment-report-101687314137749.html
Also, noteworthy, De Santis beats Biden. Trump does not: "Joe Biden trails Ron DeSantis 43% to 44% at present, according to the DailyMail.com/J.L. Partners survey ...In a hypothetical general election matchup, President Joe Biden has a slight lead over Trump 48 - 44 percent among all registered voters" https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/ron-desantis-fares-better-against-joe-biden-than-donald-trump-in-2024-contest-for-white-house-poll-shows-101687136521996.html [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 16:18, June 21, 2023 (EDT)
For those who claim De Santis needs to wait till 2028, if he did, Trump will lose, and then maybe run again in 2028? No, De Santis 2024.[[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 16:19, June 21, 2023 (EDT)
:Yes, it's interesting how many fake polls and astroturf $100 million can buy. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 16:30, June 21, 2023 (EDT)
:But I do wish to thank you and congratulate you on finding a news source that I would regard as more neutral and independent versus the blatant CIA & Nazi agitprop sources you've been in the habit of using. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 16:38, June 21, 2023 (EDT)
=== Trump support dips below 50% in latest poll ===
De Santis would almost certainly beat him in a head-to-head contest. Whether he can do so in a crowded field remains to be seen.
"In the latest poll, Trump received 47% of the vote, compared to 52% in the same poll one month prior in May.
The poll also asked respondents whether they would consider voting for a candidate or never consider voting for a candidate. Those who would consider voting for Trump remained the same at 31% from May. Those who said they would never vote for Trump went up from 16% in May to 23% in the latest poll." https://www.benzinga.com/general/politics/23/06/32937442/trump-support-dips-below-50-in-key-poll-is-an-overcrowded-field-hurting-odds-for-desantis [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 10:26, June 22, 2023 (EDT)
:Why does a nationwide poll of random adults not identified as Republican primary voters matter?
:Never mind. I know the answer. [[Propaganda]], intended for brainless boobs.
:A nationwide poll of random adults not identified as Republican primary voters is basically an apples and oranges argument. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 13:07, June 22, 2023 (EDT)
:You are even ignoring the history here. It's only June 2023. In late 2015, CNN gave Trump approximately $2 billion in free airtime with fake polls to promote Trump under the theory that Trump would be the easiest GOP candidate to beat, given Hillary's baggage and the fact that she was under criminal investigation by Comey and Strozk at that time, while dedicating no airtime to Hillary's criminal investigation. We've known since Trump won in 2016 that CNN will spare no efforts in lies to defeat Trump again, as it did in the 2020 election.
:Basically, if I were DeSantis and you were my campaign manager, I'd fire you for having such an openly disdainful attitude toward the stupidity of the American voter. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 13:18, June 22, 2023 (EDT)
How silly. It's you who would be fired. You didn't even read properly before going off on your rant: "Overall, 47% of Republicans and Republican-leaning registered voters say Trump is their first choice for the party’s nomination for president, down from 53% in a May CNN poll. Support for Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis held steady at 26% in the latest poll" https://edition.cnn.com/2023/06/20/politics/cnn-poll-trump-indictment-republicans-2024/index.html (1) They are Republican and Republican leaning registered voters (2) Support is down 5-6 points in the same poll (3) that too in only one month (4) so imagine 2 or 3 months from now (5) they show that Trump's support is on a downward trajectory. It's very clear you are not interested in beating the LGBT Agenda, in fact you have no clue how you would even begin go about beating it. We who do will continue to support De Santis. [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 14:27, June 22, 2023 (EDT)
:My apologies. You're right. It's CNN. I didn't read it. I assumed "random adults" meant "random adults". [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 14:40, June 22, 2023 (EDT)
:Question: "random adults" would include non-voting [[illegal immigrants]], wouldn't it? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 14:47, June 22, 2023 (EDT)
===DeSantis Helped Conceal The Truth About Jeffrey Epstein’s Sex Crimes In Florida===
[https://loomered.com/2023/06/21/how-ron-desantis-helped-conceal-the-truth-about-jeffrey-epsteins-sex-crimes-in-florida-the-same-year-epstein-allegedly-killed-himself/ Hmm, is this MPR-worthy?] [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 13:35, June 22, 2023 (EDT)
=== De Santis with Kayleigh McEnany on Fox ===
[pls leave this at the bottom of the page if possible. only the interviews, rest can go on top. thanx]
McEnany was a big time supporter of Trump last time. She's keeping her options open this time, like many others, and likes De Santis a lot.
This is a hoax:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqYkfZ4XKHs
The Anti-Woke Majority is getting stronger:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcCMKUtOkg4
It's simple. If you care about defeating Woke, De Santis is objectively the best Candidate there is. That's true on mask/vaccine mandates/Covidianism as a whole as well. "Live Free or Die", right? [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 17:19, June 22, 2023 (EDT)
:Sundance of the Conservativetreehouse just did an interesting hit piece on DeSantis. You should read it, so at least you are [https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/06/22/everyone-is-going-to-think-im-nuts-but-im-not-nuts/ prepared for what may be coming]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 17:28, June 22, 2023 (EDT)
I'll give it a read. Meanwhile, listen to these two interviews, this time of Trump:
"We have lost people because you supported the Jab" - Republican Voters to Trump https://twitter.com/i/status/1671600984059944960
"TRUMP: “For some reason” people don’t like the mRNA COVID shots.
Trump once again refuses to acknowledge any of the adverse effects." https://twitter.com/i/status/1671293882481483778 [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Chri
:Nah, I don't follow these day-to-day events related to 2024 presidential election politics - I don't have to - Sundance (and a few others) keep me informed. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 17:41, June 22, 2023 (EDT)
:(ec) Trump, DeSantis, even Biden don't interest me at all ''viv-a-vis'' as being 2024 candidates at the moment. I somewhat keep on eye on Biden cause when the [[psychosis]] finally breaks, we'll be stuck with Kamala for awhile. [[RFK Jr]] I promote cause he offers an alternative to Biden (but I don't need to hang on his every word). Zelensky makes me wanna puke, even just the site of him, so I handled his whole life and career in a few days back in February 2022. I am riveted moment-by-moment on the fate of Zelensky's two top Nazi advisors, [[Zaluzhny]] & [[Budanov]]. President Xi I pay little attention to, and will have to update some content sooner or later. [[President Putin]] on the other hand, I have to pay attention to every word spoken in public - cause you cannot get it in Western [[mainstream media]], only lies that threaten my very existence and life on this planet. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 17:53, June 22, 2023 (EDT)
Read your article. Very poorly argued. Take this: "The WHOLE reason DeSantis was the most popular Governor throughout his first term, was a CON; EVERY action he took as Governor, was a political calculation planned and intended to create the image of “the free State of Florida” and RDS as “Trump lite”."
Rebuttal: (1) De Santis isn't Trump lite; he is his own man, it's his contrast with Trump, e.g. his strong opposition to the LGBT Agenda, and Vaccine Mandates, that makes his candidacy so interesting; (2) De Santis is a Solid Pro-Life Conservative, he's enacted a 6 week Abortion Heartbeat Ban. (3) De Santis has Military Service, Trump does not. I could go on. The contrast between the two is very evident. We are not trying to destroy D. Trump, btw, he can continue to live in Florida, and De Santis will almost certainly pardon him if he is indicted or something. But we are clear-eyed on the need to defeat him in the Primaries in order for Anti-LGBT, 6 week pro life bills etc to become part of the National Republican Agenda. That's because De Santis and Trump represent two very different agendas of conservatism. [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 17:45, June 22, 2023 (EDT)
:"he is his own man" - No he's not. He's owned by the people who gave him $100 million for an astroturf door knocking campaign, per your own source. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 17:53, June 22, 2023 (EDT)
:Look, I understand what's going on here. It's a generational thing. The [[Millennial]] generation is the majority now and wants to take over. We boomers went through the same thing when we had to wait for [[Papa Bush]] and [[Bob Dole]] to get out of the way (while the "Best and the Brightest" of our generation - [[Bill Clinton]] & [[Baby Bush]] carved our footprints into the sands of time).
:If Trump weren't running, I'd probably be behind DeSantis 100%. They only thing is, Trump is ''the only'' candidate in about 40 years who understands the problems and what needs to be done, whereas DeSantis ''is'' part of the problems that have plagued the American political system for as long as I can remember. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 18:04, June 22, 2023 (EDT)
::I'm a millennial, and I wouldn't back DeSantis even if Trump weren't in the race. I'd vote third party before voting for that man.--[[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 22:34, June 23, 2023 (EDT)
With the release of Matt Walsh's "What is a Woman" exposing the Trans LGBT Agenda, and its huge audience of millions of viewers, following a retweet by Elon Musk, the momentum and opportunity of a lifetime is here to rise up and banish the Woke Agenda forever. De Santis did it in Florida, he can do it across America. Unfortunately, under Trump, America continued to promote LGBT policies, even pushing other nations to do so. America has vast international influence also, whether on Europe or even beyond. The ideology that dominates America will, in large measure, dominate or be influential in much of the world. That's why I'm paying attention to it, and praying God's Will be done. Let's see how it goes. The more I hear/see from De Santis, the more I like it. You can't run or be a credible candidate without being able to raise some money. But De Santis is not owned by anyone, his not backing down on Disney and being strongly anti-woke shows that. [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 18:23, June 22, 2023 (EDT)
:Now you raise some interesting and valid points. I fear tho you don't quite understand the problem. And the president is not a messiah.
:*''Unfortunately, under Trump, America continued to promote LGBT policies, even pushing other nations to do so.'' BINGO. Now, can you explain why that is so? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 18:32, June 22, 2023 (EDT)
Speaking of Matt Walsh: "Ep. 1183 - The Plot By LGBT Activists To Stigmatize Sanity And Normalcy" https://twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1671965419417264128 [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 18:24, June 22, 2023 (EDT)
:Lemme 'splain how we got here. In 1980, [[Ronald Reagan]] was the oldest person ever elected president at the age of 70 cause the boomer generation - then between 25-35 - of which there were many (why they call them boomers) and a clear majority was the generation of ''sex, drugs, rock n' roll''. So the World War II generation wasn't ready to hand over leadership to its irresponsible children. Boomers even agreed. It was another 12 years before a boomer, then in his 40s, was elected president.
:What were the first things boomers did when they took over the [[White House]]? Answer: (1) 'gays in the military'; (2) 'medical marijuana'. The rest is history.
:'Gays in the military' incrementally became today's [[transgender]] movement; 'medical marijuana' incrementally became full scale drug 'decriminalization' and legalization. (''A little leaven leaventh the whole lump.'')
:Moral of the story: Don't be peeing your pants because of the age difference and a bunch of old fuddy duddies clinging to power. Understand how we got to where [[gay marriage]] is now a [[constitutional]], God-given right that even an elected president cannot take away. And why the United States [[blackmail]]s foreign countries with sanctions as "human rights abusers" if they do not decriminalize homosexuality or allow gay marriage. Your blind support for Ukrainian fascism tells me you don't understand anything about presidential politics, or the American political process. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 01:18, June 23, 2023 (EDT)