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::::::: How could that jive, then, with the description of the world before the Fall? And the Bible says God made the Heavens and the Earth. Were Japanese Gods Izanami and Izanagi helping Him out? [[User:Tomservo|Tomservo]] 08:24, 22 June 2007 (EDT)

::::::: How could that jive, then, with the description of the world before the Fall? And the Bible says God made the Heavens and the Earth. Were Japanese Gods Izanami and Izanagi helping Him out? [[User:Tomservo|Tomservo]] 08:24, 22 June 2007 (EDT)

::::::You are making this more difficult than it has to be, as Phillip has pointed out.  Cain married later after he already had a number of brothers and sisters and probably nieces and nephews.  When you have 900 years or so of time, a lot can happen. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 08:51, 22 June 2007 (EDT)

::::::You are making this more difficult than it has to be, as Phillip has pointed out.  Cain married later after he already had a number of brothers and sisters and probably nieces and nephews.  When you have 900 years or so of time, a lot can happen. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 08:51, 22 June 2007 (EDT)

:::::::But remember what Cain asked for when they kicked him out?  He said, "But whoever finds me will kill me."  Who was he worried about if there was nobody else around?  It's the same problem.  The Bible never says there was nobody else around.  I can think of no reason to assume there wasn't.[[User:Ungtss|Ungtss]] 15:28, 22 June 2007 (EDT)

:::::::But remember what Cain asked for when they kicked him out?  He said, "But whoever finds me will kill me."  Who was he worried about if there was nobody else around?  It's the same problem.  The Bible never says there was nobody else around.  There are two reasons in the Bible itself to believe there were (Cain's marriage and his fear of being killed, and being given a mark to protect him).  I can think of no reason to assume there was no one else around.[[User:Ungtss|Ungtss]] 15:28, 22 June 2007 (EDT)

::::::''the Bible says God made the Heavens and the Earth. Were Japanese Gods Izanami and Izanagi helping Him out?''

::::::''the Bible says God made the Heavens and the Earth. Were Japanese Gods Izanami and Izanagi helping Him out?''

:::::::The Bible says Elohim (gods) created the heavens and the Earth, but Yahweh Elohim (The Lord of the Gods) created Adam and Eve.  The word Elohim is used throughout the first chapter, and word(s) "Yahweh Elohim" throughout the second chapter.  The difference is so striking that some people think the two chapters are two different creation accounts.  I just think the story is focusing in from the general to the particular -- from the gods to the Lord of the Gods.  Check out the book of Jubilees and the book of Enoch for some interesting accounts of this time-period.  [[User:Ungtss|Ungtss]] 15:28, 22 June 2007 (EDT)

:::::::The Bible says Elohim (gods) created the heavens and the Earth, but Yahweh Elohim (The Lord of the Gods) created Adam and Eve.  The word Elohim is used throughout the first chapter, and word(s) "Yahweh Elohim" throughout the second chapter.  The difference is so striking that some people think the two chapters are two different creation accounts.  I just think the story is focusing in from the general to the particular -- from the gods to the Lord of the Gods.  Check out the book of Jubilees and the book of Enoch for some interesting accounts of this time-period.  [[User:Ungtss|Ungtss]] 15:28, 22 June 2007 (EDT)