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Why don't Jimmy Wales legions of groupies believe Hayek?
::: So, what you want to do is to discuss the Hayecks views on the compatibility of socialism and democracy and Jimmy Wales opinions on Hayek. Both is fairly unrelated to the subject, and thus the Hayek quote should be removed asap. [[User:Order]] June 26 22:45
::: So, what you want to do is to discuss the Hayecks views on the compatibility of socialism and democracy and Jimmy Wales opinions on Hayek. Both is fairly unrelated to the subject, and thus the Hayek quote should be removed asap. [[User:Order]] June 26 22:45
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Hayek, an Austrian like Hitler, who lived in Austria contemporaneoulsy with Hitler, was an eyewitness to all the events. Hayek quotes Drucker, "fascism is the state reached after communsims has proven an illusion." It is a warning to socieites that choose to go down the path of Socialism; Socialism destroys liberal thinking, and when the dreams of Marxism prove illusory, it is too late, and fascism is the result. Hayek says [http://www.iea.org.uk/files/upld-publication43pdf?.pdf pgs. 34-36],
:"Individualism, in contrast to socialism and all other forms of totalitarianism, is based on the respect of Christianity for the individual man and the belief that it is desirable that men should be free to develop their own individual gifts and bents. This philosophy, first fully developed during the Renaissance, grew and spread into what we know as Western civilization. ... It is significant that this abandonment of liberalism, whether expressed as socialism '''in its more radical form or merely as ‘organization’ or ‘planning’''', was perfected in Germany. ...Germany moved far ahead in both the theory and the practice of socialism, so that even today Russian discussion largely carries on where the Germans left off. The Germans, long before the Nazis, were attacking liberalism and democracy, capitalism, and individualism.
:"...'''The idea of a political party which embraces all activities of the individual from the cradle to the grave, which claims to guide his views on everything, was first put into practice by the socialists. It was not the fascists but the socialists who began to collect children at the tenderest age into political organization to direct their thinking'''.
:"...By the time Hitler came to power, liberalism was dead in Germany. And it was socialism that had killed it.
:"To many who have watched the transition from socialism to fascism at close quarters the connection between the two systems has become increasingly obvious, but in the democracies the majority of people still believe that socialism and freedom can be combined. They do not realize that '''democratic socialism''', the great utopia of the last few generations, '''is not only unachievable, but that to strive for it produces something utterly different – the very destruction of freedom itself'''.
Apparantly Jimmy Wales believes this stuff, too. Why don't his legions of groupies? [[User:RobS|RobS]] 12:59, 26 June 2007 (EDT)
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