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===[[New Apostolic Reformation]]===
 
===[[New Apostolic Reformation]]===
 
Within the [[Pentecostal]] and [[charismatic]] branches of Christianity, churches which hold to NAR teachings also accept the view that the office of apostle never ceased to exist, and still should be practiced today.  However, as the NAR has no specific leadership, the office of apostle is often a self-appointed one.
 
Within the [[Pentecostal]] and [[charismatic]] branches of Christianity, churches which hold to NAR teachings also accept the view that the office of apostle never ceased to exist, and still should be practiced today.  However, as the NAR has no specific leadership, the office of apostle is often a self-appointed one.
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===[[Orthodox Church]]===
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The [[Orthodox Church]] [[bishop]]s are recognized as valid and licit bishops by the [[Roman Catholic Church]] even the Orthodox Church is a separate church.
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==St Augustinian Theory==
 
==St Augustinian Theory==
 
Valid [[ordination]] according to the [[Saint Augustine | St Augustinian]]  theory requires only that a man be ordained a [[priest]] by a [[Bishop]] in the line of apostolic succession originating from one who has been licitly and validly ordained to [[Holy Orders]] and who was licitly and validly consecrated a Bishop in the unbroken line of apostolic succession descended from the original Apostles. A licitly consecrated Bishop who later becomes a schismatic, even a heretic, does not lose the authoritative '''''potestas''''' (power) of the fullness of Holy Orders, even without the '''''ius''''' (lawful authority) to licitly exercise it. And those he ordains according to the ''proper form''<ref>[https://augustinianvocations.org/blog-archive/s0q6/12/27/the-postures-and-gestures-of-ordination The Postures and Gestures of Ordination (aughustinianvocations.org)]</ref><ref>https://www.jstor.org/stable/23960143</ref> of the sacrament of Holy Orders. '''In laymen's terms a bishop retains his power to ordain Priests and consecrate other bishops, even if excommunicated by the [[Roman_Catholic_Church | Roman Catholic Church]] or another church. The men he ordains priests still can preform valid Sacraments and the men he consecrates as bishops can ordain valid priests and consecrate valid bishops'''
 
Valid [[ordination]] according to the [[Saint Augustine | St Augustinian]]  theory requires only that a man be ordained a [[priest]] by a [[Bishop]] in the line of apostolic succession originating from one who has been licitly and validly ordained to [[Holy Orders]] and who was licitly and validly consecrated a Bishop in the unbroken line of apostolic succession descended from the original Apostles. A licitly consecrated Bishop who later becomes a schismatic, even a heretic, does not lose the authoritative '''''potestas''''' (power) of the fullness of Holy Orders, even without the '''''ius''''' (lawful authority) to licitly exercise it. And those he ordains according to the ''proper form''<ref>[https://augustinianvocations.org/blog-archive/s0q6/12/27/the-postures-and-gestures-of-ordination The Postures and Gestures of Ordination (aughustinianvocations.org)]</ref><ref>https://www.jstor.org/stable/23960143</ref> of the sacrament of Holy Orders. '''In laymen's terms a bishop retains his power to ordain Priests and consecrate other bishops, even if excommunicated by the [[Roman_Catholic_Church | Roman Catholic Church]] or another church. The men he ordains priests still can preform valid Sacraments and the men he consecrates as bishops can ordain valid priests and consecrate valid bishops'''
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