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:Your self-defense claim falls for a couple reasons.  First, to get technical, the 2nd Amendment says nothing about self-defense, it instead provides a cryptic message concerning militias.  Second, it was the old guy that hit the folk with a shovel, and he was in no immediate harm by the victims.  Self-defense does not apply.  --[[User:LiteratiChamp|LiteratiChamp]] 19:16, 20 July 2007 (EDT)
 
:Your self-defense claim falls for a couple reasons.  First, to get technical, the 2nd Amendment says nothing about self-defense, it instead provides a cryptic message concerning militias.  Second, it was the old guy that hit the folk with a shovel, and he was in no immediate harm by the victims.  Self-defense does not apply.  --[[User:LiteratiChamp|LiteratiChamp]] 19:16, 20 July 2007 (EDT)
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:: The above comments by "LiteratiChamp" are not to be taken seriously.  I've blocked this contributor for a week for his other postings for reasons explained in the block.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 19:39, 20 July 2007 (EDT)
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