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Clarification on why gay & lesbians do not have GID. Explicit covering of the DSM-IV criteria
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:::Actually no.  I didn't express a personal opinion.  I am reciting the theory of science behind both gay gene theory and this diagnosis.  [[User:RobS|RobS]] 20:23, 1 May 2007 (EDT)
 
:::Actually no.  I didn't express a personal opinion.  I am reciting the theory of science behind both gay gene theory and this diagnosis.  [[User:RobS|RobS]] 20:23, 1 May 2007 (EDT)
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I shall list the specific DSM-IV criteria here, and express why they do not apply to the vast majority of homosexuals:
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:1. There must be evidence of a strong and persistent cross-gender identification.
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"Cross-gender" identification includes but is not limited to the persistent desire to be the opposite sex, or to associate with the opposite sex.  This includes for Male-to-Females, makeup, heels, and dresses.  While it has been claimed above that it doesn't just cover "wanting to wear heels" in fact, it does, if that desire is sufficiently persistent.  In order to meet the criteria for GID however, all criteria must be met.  This can also refer to strictly gender roles, which are not necessarily connected to sexual or reproductive habits and behaviors.  There are a number of social and cultural differences in the behavior of men and women, and anyone who wishes to fill the gender roles of the opposite gender qualify in this parameter.
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The best test for this is to ask a man, "Do you want to be a woman?" and to ask a woman "Do you want to be a man?" A response in the affirmative is a positive indicator for this criterion, a response in the negative is a definitive contra-indication of Gender Identity Disorder.
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While gay men and butch lesbians typically express their gender roles quite broadly, and may take up gender roles typically considered outside of their traditional roles, such as men paying more attention to their looks, clothes, and fashion, and women caring significantly less about it, and acting more physical, reardless, if you ask them "Do you want to be a woman" and "Do you want to be a man?" they will answer in the negative.  They are happy with their gender, they're simply attracted to the same sex.
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:2. This cross-gender identification must not merely be a desire for any perceived cultural advantages of being the other sex.
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The person can't have these feelings simply because for instance, a woman wants to "break through the glass ceiling", or a man wants to enjoy having their dates paid for, doors opened for them, etc.
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There has to be distinct evidence, that even if changing their gender meant total loss of all advantages that they would still be willing to undergo the change.  A good example here would be male to female transsexuals in Iran.  As men they have significant advantages, and as women they lose enormous amounts of rights, yet they still change.  (Yes, Iran condones gender change, they make it mandatory once approved, and the health care system pays for it.)
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:3. There must also be evidence of persistent discomfort about one's assigned sex or a sense of inappropriateness in the gender role of that sex.
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This is the easiest contra-indication that gays have Gender Identity Disorder.  They are quite happy with the sex they're assigned, and feel appropriate in the gender that they live in.
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This is quite different from someone suffering from severe stress, and depression over their body being the wrong sex, such to the point that they would consider mutilating it in order to acheive a correction of their body.
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:4. The individual must not have a concurrent physical intersex condition (e.g., androgen insensitivity syndrome or congenital adrenal hyperplasia).
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"Intersex" means that you're born somewhere in between the genders.  Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome (the body does not properly matabolize testosterone) only affects genetic males, and can vary significantly from simply low infertility, through infertility, through ambiguous genitalia, all the way until you reach a female external form, with internalized testes, and significant lack of pubic and ancilliary hair (arm pits).  Pubic and ancilliary hair grow as a response to testosterone, and thus, when the body is insensitive to it, it will not grow.  In the later case, few people have any idea that anything would be wrong with their daughter until she didn't start her period in a timely manner, and they brought her to her doctor to figure out why.  It's estimated that 6% of all cases coming to fertility clinics are because the mother has undiagnosed AIS.  The reason AIS only affects males is because women do not have sufficient testosterone to affect their external development anyways.
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Congenital adrenal hyperplasia only affects females, as it refers to an abnormal amount of testosterone affecting a developing fetus, which results in the genetically female body developing externally down the path of virilization.
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There are a slew of other intersex conditions, basically, this criteria is to ensure that GID is only indicated in those who have no known biological reason to have cross-gender feelings.
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:5. There must be evidence of clinically significant distress or impairment in social, occupational, or other important areas of functioning.
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The most common response to "why did you change to a woman?" by male to female transsexuals is that they came to an impass, and it was either change or commit suicide.  The stress upon their life creates severe depression, it can lead to socially abberant behavior, antisocial behavior, and numerous other issues.
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Basically, the person cannot be able to function in their current life without therapy to resolve their feelings.
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Gay people are normally quite successful, they don't have such odd social behaviors, or psychological stress (to the degree of GID patients) that cause them to really require the necessity to transition.  If you ask them, "Would you be able to continue to live your life as your current gender?" their response would be positive, while someone with GID will expressly respond in the negative, stating that if they were unable to change, that they would face catastrophic life consequences, such as suicide, total failure of work life, decent into "uncurable" depression, etc.
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There are a lot of reasons why gay people do not typically have GID... the biggest indicator is that they are happy with their life.  When lay people get ahold of some DSM criteria, they may not understand the actual meanings and intentions of that text, while even a psychiatrist/psychologist who is not familiar with GID itself would be able to assess the GID criteria, and state blatently, that it would not apply to gays and lesbians. --[[User:Puellanivis|Puellanivis]] 15:55, 24 July 2007 (EDT)
    
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