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Yes. You cannot cancel a wrong and hope to make a right when you yourself go about it a wrong way. The aim is to make this place somewhere with a conservative bias. Would you prefer your children read something with any bias? I know I'd want my children to read the facts, and then make up their mind. Other people have deliberately placed bias for children to read - either it be the protocols of the learned elders of zion in Saudi Arabia or Hitlers textbooks downgrading the Jews to mere mathematical aliens. Do you realise you share a precedent with some of the most horrible regimes of the modern era? [[User:Denzo|Denzo]] 08:46, 25 July 2007 (EDT)
 
Yes. You cannot cancel a wrong and hope to make a right when you yourself go about it a wrong way. The aim is to make this place somewhere with a conservative bias. Would you prefer your children read something with any bias? I know I'd want my children to read the facts, and then make up their mind. Other people have deliberately placed bias for children to read - either it be the protocols of the learned elders of zion in Saudi Arabia or Hitlers textbooks downgrading the Jews to mere mathematical aliens. Do you realise you share a precedent with some of the most horrible regimes of the modern era? [[User:Denzo|Denzo]] 08:46, 25 July 2007 (EDT)
 
:Yes, I would expect my children to read something with a bias, because a bias is unavoidable in many cases.  But that doesn't prevent them reading the facts.  You seem to think that facts and bias are mutually exclusive, but this is not necessarily so.  In many cases it is impossible to present ''all'' the facts (they might even be infinite), and just the selection of which facts are presented is subject to bias.  I have said before elsewhere that we have a bias towards accuracy and fairness.  Do you think we should have that bias, or not?  [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 09:20, 25 July 2007 (EDT)
 
:Yes, I would expect my children to read something with a bias, because a bias is unavoidable in many cases.  But that doesn't prevent them reading the facts.  You seem to think that facts and bias are mutually exclusive, but this is not necessarily so.  In many cases it is impossible to present ''all'' the facts (they might even be infinite), and just the selection of which facts are presented is subject to bias.  I have said before elsewhere that we have a bias towards accuracy and fairness.  Do you think we should have that bias, or not?  [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 09:20, 25 July 2007 (EDT)
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I think you shouldn't. Take the homosexuality for starters. We need to decide what logic we use - the Scientific method or your pretty logic that allows you to discriminate when you feel like it - If its the former then you simply cannot, simply cannot even begin to comprehend how stupid it is to have homosexuality denounced on religious grounds.
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I would rather my child read the facts about homosexuality - why people do it and what it is - rather than they read about the Bible's view. I don't care what the Bible's view and neither do the majority of the world. There are other examples, but the main reasons I decided to leave here:
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*A constant unwarranted attack on the Democrats, which besides your name makes you out to be partisans.
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*Che Guevara being termed as 'Liberal', I genuinly wonder if any of you know the differences between Liberalism and socialism.
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*The poor quality of a lot of the articles, like [[Sparta]]
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*The unbelievably humourous, yet worrying level of bias on this site, which infinitely outdo's any accidental bias wiki may or may not engage in.
    
== What if Wikipedia editors were to remove some instances of bias? ==
 
== What if Wikipedia editors were to remove some instances of bias? ==
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