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::::I am not sure how long will take until it get through to you, but I still didn't say that Christianity is Nazism. And I also did not say that Christianity is using Nazi symbols. I said that Nazis used references to God. And that many Nazis, and among them quite likely Hitler himself, were theists. This means that they weren't atheists. You might know that "theist" is not the same as being a "Christian". And you might also know that not being a "Christian" following your particular interpretation of the scripture doesn't mean that you are an "atheist". The Nazis advocated "positive Christianity", something which should be different from your version of Christianity, but which is still decidedly theist. This is something different from saying that Christians are Nazis. What is so difficult to understand about that? you are barking up the wrong tree. For days. And I am telling you for days. [[User:Order]] 1 August, 23:58
 
::::I am not sure how long will take until it get through to you, but I still didn't say that Christianity is Nazism. And I also did not say that Christianity is using Nazi symbols. I said that Nazis used references to God. And that many Nazis, and among them quite likely Hitler himself, were theists. This means that they weren't atheists. You might know that "theist" is not the same as being a "Christian". And you might also know that not being a "Christian" following your particular interpretation of the scripture doesn't mean that you are an "atheist". The Nazis advocated "positive Christianity", something which should be different from your version of Christianity, but which is still decidedly theist. This is something different from saying that Christians are Nazis. What is so difficult to understand about that? you are barking up the wrong tree. For days. And I am telling you for days. [[User:Order]] 1 August, 23:58
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:::::Ok, this argument is difficult for obvious reason.  Hitler certainly did not accept the existence opr soveriegnty of the Jewish God, Jehovah.  Neither did Hitler accept the old Nordic gods like Wotan, despite some rumors (Ludendorf perhaps did).  Hitler may have beleived in some sort of Providence, as Menachim Begin referred to also.  Who is this "Providence"?  IMHO, it is was most likely Satan, however if Hitler were here and if you asked him, he'd probably most certainly deny it and laugh, as most Hollywood movie producers would too at the same question.   
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:::::Ok, this argument is difficult for obvious reason.  Hitler certainly did not accept the existence or soveriegnty of the Jewish God, Jehovah.  Neither did Hitler accept the old Nordic gods like Wotan, despite some rumors (Ludendorf perhaps did).  Hitler may have beleived in some sort of Providence, as Menachim Begin referred to also.  Who is this "Providence"?  IMHO, it is was most likely Satan, however if Hitler were here and if you asked him, he'd probably most certainly deny it and laugh, as most Hollywood movie producers would too at the same question.   
 
:::::So, we're at the crossroads, where a person may actually be admitting to some divine supernatural being greater then themselves that they are in subservience to.  Most spritually decieved people never even get this far, laboring under the notion that they themselves are god, i.e. that their life purpose is to serve themself.  Now, if a deluded soul arrives at the point where they recognize a supernatural power apart from themself, more powerful than themself, and to whom they owe some sort of debt perhaps, and at the same time pointedly denying this supernatural power is Jehovah, for all intents and purposes we can conclude they are avowed Satanists.  So the only remaining question is, when Hitler survived the July 20, 1944 assassination attempt, and Goebbels convinced him Providence intervened, did he really beleive it, or was he just going along with another propaganda scheme?   
 
:::::So, we're at the crossroads, where a person may actually be admitting to some divine supernatural being greater then themselves that they are in subservience to.  Most spritually decieved people never even get this far, laboring under the notion that they themselves are god, i.e. that their life purpose is to serve themself.  Now, if a deluded soul arrives at the point where they recognize a supernatural power apart from themself, more powerful than themself, and to whom they owe some sort of debt perhaps, and at the same time pointedly denying this supernatural power is Jehovah, for all intents and purposes we can conclude they are avowed Satanists.  So the only remaining question is, when Hitler survived the July 20, 1944 assassination attempt, and Goebbels convinced him Providence intervened, did he really beleive it, or was he just going along with another propaganda scheme?   
  
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