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:so you'd argue that theism isn't a religion either but rather a tenet of several religions? Interesting ... Would you call secular humanism a religion? [[User:Ungtss|Ungtss]] 00:18, 11 September 2007 (EDT)
:so you'd argue that theism isn't a religion either but rather a tenet of several religions? Interesting ... Would you call secular humanism a religion? [[User:Ungtss|Ungtss]] 00:18, 11 September 2007 (EDT)
::I agree with Order. Atheism is lack of religion, not religion. Secular humanism, likewise, is a philosophy that operates outside of religion. When we blur the distinction, religion, or what it means to have a religion, becomes watered down as to be any closely held belief from which someone derives a worldview. So Communism becomes a religion, Freudian psychology becomes a religion, etc. I believe any definition of religion that allows that is missing the mark. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 01:48, 11 September 2007 (EDT)
::I agree with Order. Atheism is lack of religion, not religion. Secular humanism, likewise, is a philosophy that operates outside of religion. When we blur the distinction, religion, or what it means to have a religion, becomes watered down as to be any closely held belief from which someone derives a worldview. So Communism becomes a religion, Freudian psychology becomes a religion, etc. I believe any definition of religion that allows that is missing the mark. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 01:48, 11 September 2007 (EDT)
:::You could call secular humanism a religion. I'd feel it is a bit of a stretch, but they do have core beliefs, and are not too far from Buddhism, which is typically called religion. But that why we should distinguish between "real" religions, and philosophies of life. Atheism isn't even a philosophy of life. And a real religion is typically more than just a philosophy of life. [[User:Order|Order]] 02:16, 11 September 2007 (EDT)