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Talk:Examples of Bias in Wikipedia (view source)
Revision as of 17:56, September 16, 2007
, 17:56, September 16, 2007→Al Gore and Dick Cheney: placement bias
Regarding the Al Gore and Dick Cheney entry, I'm not sure that this is a problem. While Wikipedia does not mention it in the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Gore Al Gore] article, it is mentioned prominently in the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Gore_III Al Gore III article] (about the former vice-president's son), where it has two supporting references. I would also like to note that context is important for the "criticism" of Dick Cheney: I don't think the word "prominently" is quite accurate when it is mentioned in ''only one sentence in the 88 kB article'', and noted to have affected his views on same-sex marriage a sentence later. For reference, please see [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Cheney the Wikipedia Dick Cheney article] and [http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/08/24/cheney.samesex/ the article cited for verifiability]. It seems to me that there isn't any particular correction to Wikipedia needed or particular bias displayed in this example, is there? I'd like to confirm that this is still a problem, because it would be nice to fix any potential problems in Wikipedia. :) [[User:Nihiltres|Nihiltres]] 13:49, 16 September 2007 (EDT)
Regarding the Al Gore and Dick Cheney entry, I'm not sure that this is a problem. While Wikipedia does not mention it in the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Gore Al Gore] article, it is mentioned prominently in the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Gore_III Al Gore III article] (about the former vice-president's son), where it has two supporting references. I would also like to note that context is important for the "criticism" of Dick Cheney: I don't think the word "prominently" is quite accurate when it is mentioned in ''only one sentence in the 88 kB article'', and noted to have affected his views on same-sex marriage a sentence later. For reference, please see [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Cheney the Wikipedia Dick Cheney article] and [http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/08/24/cheney.samesex/ the article cited for verifiability]. It seems to me that there isn't any particular correction to Wikipedia needed or particular bias displayed in this example, is there? I'd like to confirm that this is still a problem, because it would be nice to fix any potential problems in Wikipedia. :) [[User:Nihiltres|Nihiltres]] 13:49, 16 September 2007 (EDT)
: We're not fooled by the [[placement bias]] that is pervasive on [[Wikipedia]]. The Wikipedia Al Gore entry is going to be visited far often, and perhaps 100 times more often, than the entry on Al Gore III. It's placement bias to bury the embarrassment in the obscure entry, and hide it from the main entry, when the Dick Cheney family matter is placed prominently in the very first substantive section in his entry. Maybe placement bias can fool users of Wikipedia. It doesn't fool us here. In Christ,--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 13:56, 16 September 2007 (EDT)