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Talk:Matthew Shepard (view source)
Revision as of 17:26, December 17, 2007
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Could it be that guys who'd brutally murdered someone might just lie about their motives to avoid being charged with a hate crime? [[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 13:59, 14 November 2007 (EST)
--[[User:Incide|Incide]] 12:26, 17 December 2007 (EST)Could it be that guys who'd brutally murdered someone might just lie about their motives to avoid being charged with a hate crime? [[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 13:59, 14 November 2007 (EST)
I'm almost looking forward to reading about a bunch of gay dudes that murder a straight guy because he is straight and see how quickly right-wingers pull out the 'hate crime' card.
I'm almost looking forward to reading about a bunch of gay dudes that murder a straight guy because he is straight and see how quickly right-wingers pull out the 'hate crime' card.
:::That is asinine! Of course he hated her. But he hated ''her''. Her the person. Her the person that ragged on him all the time for being gay. Does her sexuality come into play? Yes. But inasmuch as it was one of the driving forces behind her nagging along with her 'religious devotion'. Had that not occured and he not be as "troubled" as he is, this would not have happened.--[[User:Incide|Incide]] 10:01, 14 December 2007 (EST)
:::That is asinine! Of course he hated her. But he hated ''her''. Her the person. Her the person that ragged on him all the time for being gay. Does her sexuality come into play? Yes. But inasmuch as it was one of the driving forces behind her nagging along with her 'religious devotion'. Had that not occured and he not be as "troubled" as he is, this would not have happened.--[[User:Incide|Incide]] 10:01, 14 December 2007 (EST)
::::What you're implying is when someone who is GAY kills someone straight it is not a hate crime, but it IS A HATE CRIME when someone straight kills the gay person. [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 10:49, 14 December 2007 (EST)
::::What you're implying is when someone who is GAY kills someone straight it is not a hate crime, but it IS A HATE CRIME when someone straight kills the gay person. [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 10:49, 14 December 2007 (EST)
:::::No. clearly, you've misunderstood what i wrote. but i'm guessing that there is very little i can do to convince you otherwise.
:::::A question, then. If the roles were reversed. If a gay person who tried to "convert" a straight person (putting aside your archaic view of morality for just a moment because i know that it will come into play) and the straight person kills the gay person: whould THAT be a hate crime? Or would the straight person be justified?