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When you've experienced life enough you will find that truth and belief can come down to the same thing. Would you have your children believe, as the liberals would, that Iraq was invaded for no reason? The fact that the reasons for the invasion may have been more complex than our leaders felt they could have explained at the time doesn't mean that as patriotic citizens we may feel justified in shrilly pointing this out. Therefore, I think it is fair to phrase the article as such - the weapons, I'm sure we can agree, have not yet been found. [[User:ATB|ATB]] 17:45, 13 March 2007 (EDT)
When you've experienced life enough you will find that truth and belief can come down to the same thing. Would you have your children believe, as the liberals would, that Iraq was invaded for no reason? The fact that the reasons for the invasion may have been more complex than our leaders felt they could have explained at the time doesn't mean that as patriotic citizens we may feel justified in shrilly pointing this out. Therefore, I think it is fair to phrase the article as such - the weapons, I'm sure we can agree, have not yet been found. [[User:ATB|ATB]] 17:45, 13 March 2007 (EDT)
First of all, AMD, I suppose that I should thank you for your apparent assumption of my youth. I shall certainly drink to your health when my 60th birthday rolls round shortly. Belief should follow from truth. I seriously doubt that anybody believes that Iraq was invaded for "no reason", but I agree with you that the reasons were certainly more complicated than the British and American governments would have had us believe at the time. However I feel that, if our countries have been taken to war under false presences we have a democratic duty to mention it. Nevertheless, as this page now redirects somewhere else there is probably little point in pursuing the matter here. Thank you for taking the time to debate the matter in a civilized manner. --[[User:British_cons|British_cons]] [[User_talk:British_cons|(talk)]] 14:00, 15 March 2007 (EDT)