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→"Disregard my last summary": That's my point: we /notice/ it.
:I prefer to make as strong a distinction as possible between the '''observed facts''' and the '''theories that explain them'''. It is liberals and other dishonest parties who want to blur this distinction altogether. The Darwinist motto is, "Evolution is a fact". How do they get away with that? --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]</sup> 17:14, 15 March 2008 (EDT)
:I prefer to make as strong a distinction as possible between the '''observed facts''' and the '''theories that explain them'''. It is liberals and other dishonest parties who want to blur this distinction altogether. The Darwinist motto is, "Evolution is a fact". How do they get away with that? --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]</sup> 17:14, 15 March 2008 (EDT)
:: That's my point: Natural selection is something that we ''notice''. We ''notice'' that unfit individuals are selected out, and we ''notice'' that populations change when they come under selection pressure. Edward Blyth noticed, and described, natural selection before Darwin (Darwin probably got the idea from him; Darwin had a copy of Blyth's book). Of course the phenomenon of natural selection is used (in part) to ''explain'' evolution, but natural selection itself is an observation. [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 18:57, 15 March 2008 (EDT)