:::::: And just because some don't count atheistic views as religions doesn't mean that we have to go along with that. If a core belief doesn't make a religion, what does? And why? Some bikies might believe that Harleys are the best motorbikes, but how does that count as a "core belief"? The same applies to most of the other examples. Environmentalists don't base their actions on the belief that the Earth warms up, but on the belief that the environment is more important that mankind. (Before global warming was an issue, there were still environmentalists.) And I've seen environmentalist beliefs referred to as a religion. Yes, true religion is more than those superficial examples that you gave, which is why the definition refers to "core beliefs" and not just "beliefs". [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 09:50, 16 September 2007 (EDT) | :::::: And just because some don't count atheistic views as religions doesn't mean that we have to go along with that. If a core belief doesn't make a religion, what does? And why? Some bikies might believe that Harleys are the best motorbikes, but how does that count as a "core belief"? The same applies to most of the other examples. Environmentalists don't base their actions on the belief that the Earth warms up, but on the belief that the environment is more important that mankind. (Before global warming was an issue, there were still environmentalists.) And I've seen environmentalist beliefs referred to as a religion. Yes, true religion is more than those superficial examples that you gave, which is why the definition refers to "core beliefs" and not just "beliefs". [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 09:50, 16 September 2007 (EDT) |