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::: Here's something to think about. I gather that you reject evolution? (If not, ignore the rest of this.) Pretty-well everything you said about YEC (e.g. "the vast majority of informed people know that these theories are preposterous") is also said by evolutionists against those that believe in ID or creation. So what makes ''your'' supposedly-minority, supposedly-unscientific, position any more credible that my supposedly-minority, supposedly-unscientific, position?
::: Here's something to think about. I gather that you reject evolution? (If not, ignore the rest of this.) Pretty-well everything you said about YEC (e.g. "the vast majority of informed people know that these theories are preposterous") is also said by evolutionists against those that believe in ID or creation. So what makes ''your'' supposedly-minority, supposedly-unscientific, position any more credible that my supposedly-minority, supposedly-unscientific, position?
::: [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 09:20, 31 March 2008 (EDT)
::: [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 09:20, 31 March 2008 (EDT)
For the record: I do not "reject" evolution. Evolution is not a theory. Evolution is a fact. On the other hand, I do not think that the "Origin of Species" fully explains the creation and permutations of life on this planet. Further, I do not think that evolution, survival of the fittest, has anything to do with creation. Creation is wholly apart from evolution. It makes perfect sense to me that God would create an evolving system and would leave evidence of evolution for man to find.
That said, you have kindly and eagerly provided an example of exactly the type of ridiculous internet debate which I refuse to engage. Quotes vs. counter-quotes round and round in circles, it's all pointless.
Clearly, you're quite passionate in your beliefs and if you have (as you claim) studied the field and still haven't changed your mind after thirty years, there is nothing I can type which will change your mind. I understand and allow for the fact that there is a possibility that the minority position might be the correct position. But I also think it foolish for the minority to lead the majority by demanding "equality". Also, it's not my job to change your mind or educate you. (Thank God!)
By the same token, I'm quite sure that there is nothing you can write which will countermand well-documented, provable scientific endeavor in the field of geology.
Therefore, it's best to agree to disagree and move on to other matters.
That understood, it makes most sense to separate these two variant schools of thought, because quite frankly there is no room in modern geology for what you postulate.
To the editors and admins of the site, I plead again. Surely there has to be a conservative who understands geology so that progress need not be hijacked by a tiny but aggressive minority? [[User:Everwill|Everwill]] 16:06, 31 March 2008 (EDT)