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If there were no Matter in the Universe would it exist?
:::::::Thank you for taking the trouble to reply, but I remain confused by your position. If no sun, moon or stars were created when the heavens were created - then what was created when the heavens were created? [[User:Tolerance|Tolerance]] 11:57, 19 April 2008 (EDT)
:::::::Thank you for taking the trouble to reply, but I remain confused by your position. If no sun, moon or stars were created when the heavens were created - then what was created when the heavens were created? [[User:Tolerance|Tolerance]] 11:57, 19 April 2008 (EDT)
:::::::: The universe. The stars, etc. are ''in'' the universe. They are not the universe itself. [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 12:04, 19 April 2008 (EDT)
:::::::: The universe. The stars, etc. are ''in'' the universe. They are not the universe itself. [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 12:04, 19 April 2008 (EDT)
:::::::::But surely, the Universe is Defined by the matter within it. If there were no Matter in the Universe would it exist?[[User:Tolerance|Tolerance]] 12:07, 19 April 2008 (EDT)