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[[User:AdenJ|AdenJ]] 19:32, 14 June 2008 (EDT)

[[User:AdenJ|AdenJ]] 19:32, 14 June 2008 (EDT)

::::Oh for heaven's sake Terry, how could you have an interest in this subject and NOT now who [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Hicks David Hicks] is?  It was a HUGE, international news story - both his detainment in Afghanistan (because he was a white westerner) and his trial (because Australia had to decide if they would allow him to be tried by a US military tribunal).  If there has been one Guantanamo Bay detainee in the past six years whose name might actually be known by the general public, it would be his.  I advise you know something - anything - about a topic before you make such wild claims again in the future..  His case was ANYTHING but irrelevant to the entire saga of Guantanamo Bay, as you'll learn if you read the linked article.  [[User:Aggrieved|Aggrieved]] 19:39, 14 June 2008 (EDT)

::::Oh for heaven's sake Terry, how could you have an interest in this subject and NOT know who [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Hicks David Hicks] is?  It was a HUGE, international news story - both his detainment in Afghanistan (because he was a white westerner) and his trial (because Australia had to decide if they would allow him to be tried by a US military tribunal).  If there has been one Guantanamo Bay detainee in the past six years whose name might actually be known by the general public, it would be his.  I advise you know something - anything - about a topic before you make such wild claims again in the future..  His case was ANYTHING but irrelevant to the entire saga of Guantanamo Bay, as you'll learn if you read the linked article.  [[User:Aggrieved|Aggrieved]] 19:39, 14 June 2008 (EDT)

:::: Terry - it is you who have made an unsubstantiated assertion, not I.    Again I ask you for proof of your assertion.  I note you have found it impossible to come by.  It is easier to prove my case, much easier.  Try [http://books.guardian.co.uk/extracts/story/0,,2275535,00.html Murat Kurnaz], for example, living in Germany since his release.  David Hicks is alive and well in Australia.  There are countless numbers of them who have '''not''' returned to combat Terry, and while I am certainly not denying that ''some'' have returned to combat, your claim that "to a man, every one of them" has done so is obviously completely incorrect.  The [http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/45738.htm Dept. of State's official report] clearly says that "some detainees upon their release are returning to combat" (search for the phrase, no way to provide a hard link) - I imagine that if they could have made your claim, they would have been much happier, but they couldn't, so they didn't.  Because it's not true.

:::: Terry - it is you who have made an unsubstantiated assertion, not I.    Again I ask you for proof of your assertion.  I note you have found it impossible to come by.  It is easier to prove my case, much easier.  Try [http://books.guardian.co.uk/extracts/story/0,,2275535,00.html Murat Kurnaz], for example, living in Germany since his release.  David Hicks is alive and well in Australia.  There are countless numbers of them who have '''not''' returned to combat Terry, and while I am certainly not denying that ''some'' have returned to combat, your claim that "to a man, every one of them" has done so is obviously completely incorrect.  The [http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/45738.htm Dept. of State's official report] clearly says that "some detainees upon their release are returning to combat" (search for the phrase, no way to provide a hard link) - I imagine that if they could have made your claim, they would have been much happier, but they couldn't, so they didn't.  Because it's not true.