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* "a long time is not forever" - exactly, try thinking of a place where a superconducting ring or a hydrogen atom could last undisturbed for an arbitrarily long period of time. [[User:EmanresU|EmanresU]] 17:42, 26 June 2007 (EDT)
 
* "a long time is not forever" - exactly, try thinking of a place where a superconducting ring or a hydrogen atom could last undisturbed for an arbitrarily long period of time. [[User:EmanresU|EmanresU]] 17:42, 26 June 2007 (EDT)
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== First and Second Type ==
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Let's not forget that two types of perpetual motion machines are defined. The first type is one that doesn't satisfy the First Law of Thermodynamics, while the second type doesn't satisfy the Second Law of Thermodynamics. And it is possible to design machines which satisfy both and are perpetual. Any watch based on solar energy for example. [[User:SilvioB|SilvioB]] 17:07, 3 July 2008 (EDT)
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