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::Mr Schlafly, I have previously tried to find out if you accept if the data are mainly in the organisms. Mr Lenski makes this point quite strongly in his letter. Do you accept that the main substantiating data are held within the organisms? And if you feel that this is not the case - why not?--[[User:British_cons|British_cons]] [[User_talk:British_cons|(talk)]] 14:32, 5 July 2008 (EDT)
::Mr Schlafly, I have previously tried to find out if you accept if the data are mainly in the organisms. Mr Lenski makes this point quite strongly in his letter. Do you accept that the main substantiating data are held within the organisms? And if you feel that this is not the case - why not?--[[User:British_cons|British_cons]] [[User_talk:British_cons|(talk)]] 14:32, 5 July 2008 (EDT)
::I too would be greatly interested to see the reply. Can't most of the experimental results and all of the key conclusions of the replay experiments be evaluated with the strains in hand?--[[User:Argon|Argon]] 14:43, 5 July 2008 (EDT)
::I too would be greatly interested to see the reply. Can't most of the experimental results and all of the key conclusions of the replay experiments be evaluated with the strains in hand?--[[User:Argon|Argon]] 14:43, 5 July 2008 (EDT)
::: I've been clear about the request for "data", a term that does not ordinarily include organisms. I recall that Lenski himself in the paper claims that he analyzed "data", and one of his co-authors did not. The table in the entry here on [[Lenski]] illustrates with great specificity what the undisclosed data are. No, it is not necessary to perform experiments and generate new data in order to review existing data for a published paper.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 16:30, 5 July 2008 (EDT)