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I suspect whoever wrote this version of the article is trying to score ideological points. I recommend a longer block (or a ban), unless they change their tune. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]</sup> 09:53, 23 August 2008 (EDT)
I suspect whoever wrote this version of the article is trying to score ideological points. I recommend a longer block (or a ban), unless they change their tune. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]</sup> 09:53, 23 August 2008 (EDT)
:I am sorry that the text was misunderstandable. Éowyn was not made Queen nor heiress to the title, but was made leader of the people headed for Dunharrow in the absence of the King. (LotR, III, 6: ''"[Théoden:] 'I name Éomer my sister-son to be my heir. If neither of us return, then choose a new lord as you will. But to some one I must now entrust my people that I leave behind, to rule them in my place. Which of you will stay?’ ... [Háma:] 'Let her be as lord to the Eorlingas, while we are gone.' [Théoden:] 'It shall be so. Let the heralds announce to the folk that the Lady Éowyn will lead them!'"'')<br>
:As for being accepted riding to Gondor, Éowyn did so disguised as an anonymous warrior. Neither the people around her nor the reader know of her until she reveals herself during her confrontation with the Witch-king. She had not been relieved of her duty as leader by the King, and as such can be said to have forsaken said duty (as Aragorn points out to her in LotR, V, 2: ''"[Éowyn:] 'Then wilt thou not let me ride with this company, as I have asked?’ [Aragorn:] 'I will not, lady. For that I could not grant without leave of the king and of your brother; and they will not return until tomorrow.'"''). Her archievements at the Pelennor were great, and I am the last one to doubt that, but the fact that she left her duty without having been given leave still stands separately. I do not think that stating objective facts demeans her, unless you meant something else I oversaw.<br>
:As for "trying to score ideological points", I truthfully do not know what you mean. Misogyny? That I say Éowyn is better than everyone else? That she is stupid? I do not think she is, nor that she is more than the other characters. But objectively she ''was'' hopeless, and she ''did'' leave her post, and then she went on and did great deeds. And subjectively she was absolutely awesome and lovely doing so.<br>
:When I added to the article I just intended for an objective overview of life pre-, during, and post-War; and during the War the waypoints of her being appointed leader in Dunharrow, disguising as Dernhelm, and slaying the Witch-king, although I did not (yet) add the issue of her crushing on Aragorn, as I feared it getting to long. I hope I understood the objections you made, and cleared my intentions. Perhaps if one added the quotes as references they would not be misunderstood, and her doings during the War could be restored. ~ [[User:Tolkiendil|Tolkiendil]] 18:01, 24 August 2008 (EDT)