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::::::Thanks by the way for the reply and for the continued discussion - it helps to sort out exactly what my arguments are to have them questioned coherently like that.--[[User:Sam99foster|Sam99foster]] 08:38, 19 September 2008 (EDT)
::::::Thanks by the way for the reply and for the continued discussion - it helps to sort out exactly what my arguments are to have them questioned coherently like that.--[[User:Sam99foster|Sam99foster]] 08:38, 19 September 2008 (EDT)
::::::P.S. I am not completely positive what Hume's precise rebuttal would be to your arguments, I'm just putting forward my view since I agree with Hume. I am however reasonably confident that I've expressed his view accurately.
::::::P.S. I am not completely positive what Hume's precise rebuttal would be to your arguments, I'm just putting forward my view since I agree with Hume. I am however reasonably confident that I've expressed his view accurately.
:::::::I think you need to rewrite your section soon. I'm uncomfortable with having an article that currently reads in a form that is misleading and/or confusing.
:::::::The difficulty that Hume faced, and those since his time, is how to allow for free will in a totally naturalistic system. I find they often take the conclusion (we have free will) and try to force it backwards to fit in a way that presumes it must fit when it doesn't. It is also common today for naturalists to simply state that we have no free will, a positition that is certainly more sound based on the naturalistic evidence, but doesn't appear to match what we see in reality. Hume also had the advantage of ignorance, having only the barest knowledge of the naturalistic system that has been fleshed out in much greater detail today. One can speculate a role for 'randomness' back then that just isn't seen in our knowledge of naturalistic functions today. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 12:54, 19 September 2008 (EDT)