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::Lifelong connection??? That sounds more like a profound friendship, like you'd get in ''Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid'' or ''Rain Man''. It's only after you have that idea planted in your head that they mention love, but that could easily be the kind of brotherly love you get from camraderie (e.g. in the military, on a sports team, etc). You even have liberals describing people who were shocked in the movie theater when the homosexuality became apparent<ref>http://hughesforamerica.typepad.com/hughes_for_america/2006/01/on_brokeback_mo.html</ref> (and this liberal then goes on to call the people immature, hecklers, etc): "One woman behind us exclaimed, "Thanks for preparing me for that," as though she had been completely ignorant of the storyline." So if people ended up in the theater without knowing what it was about, as this woman did and as did the friend of Learn Together, then I think there was indeed some concealment of the gay content by the advertising. -[[User:Foxtrot|Foxtrot]] 19:50, 8 October 2008 (EDT)
 
::Lifelong connection??? That sounds more like a profound friendship, like you'd get in ''Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid'' or ''Rain Man''. It's only after you have that idea planted in your head that they mention love, but that could easily be the kind of brotherly love you get from camraderie (e.g. in the military, on a sports team, etc). You even have liberals describing people who were shocked in the movie theater when the homosexuality became apparent<ref>http://hughesforamerica.typepad.com/hughes_for_america/2006/01/on_brokeback_mo.html</ref> (and this liberal then goes on to call the people immature, hecklers, etc): "One woman behind us exclaimed, "Thanks for preparing me for that," as though she had been completely ignorant of the storyline." So if people ended up in the theater without knowing what it was about, as this woman did and as did the friend of Learn Together, then I think there was indeed some concealment of the gay content by the advertising. -[[User:Foxtrot|Foxtrot]] 19:50, 8 October 2008 (EDT)
 
:::I'm not sure how much they could really spell it out.  If they made it quite clear in the ads what the nature of the relationship was, they would run into serious trouble with folks who would object to the content of the ads, especially if their children inadvertently saw them.  They most likely had to walk a very fine line, trying to get across the content to adults without being inappropriate for children.  It sounds like they erred on the side of under-informing the adults, rather than over-informing the kids, and quite frankly I think that was the right way to go.  This is a quite different explanation for the situation than ''"purposefully concealed the theme of homosexuality from the unsuspecting public"'' would imply. --[[User:Hsmom|Hsmom]] 16:20, 9 October 2008 (EDT)
 
:::I'm not sure how much they could really spell it out.  If they made it quite clear in the ads what the nature of the relationship was, they would run into serious trouble with folks who would object to the content of the ads, especially if their children inadvertently saw them.  They most likely had to walk a very fine line, trying to get across the content to adults without being inappropriate for children.  It sounds like they erred on the side of under-informing the adults, rather than over-informing the kids, and quite frankly I think that was the right way to go.  This is a quite different explanation for the situation than ''"purposefully concealed the theme of homosexuality from the unsuspecting public"'' would imply. --[[User:Hsmom|Hsmom]] 16:20, 9 October 2008 (EDT)
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:::: I don't accept that they couldn't make the nature of the relationship clearer, even if that was only in advertisements shown later at night (assuming the U.S. has the same situation as here in Oz, where television ads before a certain time have to be rated suitable for children, but later ones can have adult-only content).  However, I also find it hard to accept that they "concealed" the homosexual aspects.  "Downplayed" or similar may be a better way of putting it.  [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 22:26, 9 October 2008 (EDT)
    
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