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: Sorry to confuse you with SamD, but you did seem to be agreeing with him. What do you suggest? Saying that Ptolemy's model was not good enough for 16C data? [[User:RSchlafly|RSchlafly]] 17:03, 3 November 2008 (EST)
 
: Sorry to confuse you with SamD, but you did seem to be agreeing with him. What do you suggest? Saying that Ptolemy's model was not good enough for 16C data? [[User:RSchlafly|RSchlafly]] 17:03, 3 November 2008 (EST)
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:My outline for the article:
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:#Start before Ptolemy. The geocentric system predated him in the ideas of Plato and Aristotle as a mainly philosophical construct (single center of motion, etc.)
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:#Giving Ptolemy his right credit: He was the genius who made the system work. Great mathematics, best model for centuries to come...
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:#Time-line of the problems: Tycho Brahe's meticulous observations - in the 16th century - lead to Kepler's new model
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:#The post-bear-eye era: Galileos observations of the Jupiter moons posed a problem for the ''philosophy'' of ''Plato'' and ''Aristotle'', the observation of the [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlnlbZHP-jk phases of Venus] a problem for the ''Ptolemaic'' system.
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:--[[User:BRichtigen|BRichtigen]] 17:50, 3 November 2008 (EST)
    
I'm a little confused about what this discussion is about. Modern astronomy clearly takes an earth-centered view when describing familiar phenomena such as [[sunrise]] and [[sunset]] (which we know are caused by the earth's rotation - not by a sun god ascending and descending the sky in a fiery chariot; and the "motion" of the sun against the background of the "fixed stars" is explained by the earth's annual revolution around the (relatively) immobile sun.  
 
I'm a little confused about what this discussion is about. Modern astronomy clearly takes an earth-centered view when describing familiar phenomena such as [[sunrise]] and [[sunset]] (which we know are caused by the earth's rotation - not by a sun god ascending and descending the sky in a fiery chariot; and the "motion" of the sun against the background of the "fixed stars" is explained by the earth's annual revolution around the (relatively) immobile sun.  
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