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Talk:Libertarian censorship (view source)
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: I don't see how a counterexample to censorship helps lessen the wrongdoing of censorship. How about a counterexample to crime? The criminal obeyed the law today! That doesn't work.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 23:00, 17 November 2008 (EST)
: I don't see how a counterexample to censorship helps lessen the wrongdoing of censorship. How about a counterexample to crime? The criminal obeyed the law today! That doesn't work.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 23:00, 17 November 2008 (EST)
:: I was hoping that providing examples would help convince you that this argument is fallacious. The following examples from prominent libertarians say that each school should have its own mandate about state control of prayer in school: [http://www.theadvocates.org/ruwart/questions_maint.php?Category=2&id=171] [http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=26415] [http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/Ron_Paul_Education.htm]
:: I think what this might boil down to is that the ACLU is not and never was a libertarian organization. While these may be issues that the ACLU pushes, the ACLU ignores such things as the second amendment, the increases in government size due to their lawsuits, and the limitation on speech that their lawsuits end up causing.
::All of the libertarians I know agree with the Norquist idea of shrinking the federal government down to the point where it can be drown in a bathtub. They want to create a world in which a parent can choose to send their child to a school that starts the day with a prayer. Or doesn't for that matter. They support the right of parents to homeschool their children and teach them what they feel children should learn. I'm not sure how else to state that. If you can find libertarian organizations that actually support restrictions on the prayers that students say, please tell me. [[User:ArnoldFriend|ArnoldFriend]] 23:37, 17 November 2008 (EST)