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::: Your long-winded, twisted explanation why you don't want censorship of prayer, but then do support it, illustrates the contradiction.  I teach a large class and we begin with a prayer, which all or nearly all want.  Do you want to censor it or not?  You're living with a contradiction by simultaneously saying "yes" and "no".--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 19:59, 19 November 2008 (EST)
 
::: Your long-winded, twisted explanation why you don't want censorship of prayer, but then do support it, illustrates the contradiction.  I teach a large class and we begin with a prayer, which all or nearly all want.  Do you want to censor it or not?  You're living with a contradiction by simultaneously saying "yes" and "no".--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 19:59, 19 November 2008 (EST)
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::::To untwist, teachers in public schools are leaders.  Leaders influence and maybe some parents don't want that being pushed on their children.  So many conservatives complain about liberal bias in schools, and the same principle applies here.  Something unwanted being pushed on someone who does not want it.
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::::You mentioned "nearly all".  What do you do with the student that doesn't want it?  Force them to grin and bear it?  Ask them to leave and alienate them?  If you just let the students some time for free-time (since legally it cant be referred to as "prayer-time") to do as they wish.  To make it better form a group specifically for prayer where only those who want it show up. 
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::::Teachers try hard to be neutral, they really do.  My government teacher, who was a fairly hard-line democrat, went to lengths to try and present a neutral base or at best an equal platform.  Once in awhile he would let something slip, but then my chemistry teacher (a hard-line Republican) would slip sometimes too.  As long as the blackboard doesn't become a soapbox there is no problem.--[[User:Snotbowst|Snotbowst]] 10:45, 21 November 2008 (EST)
    
People generally refer to the society described in [[Orwell]]'s ''[[1984]]'' as crazy, with its consciously self-contradictory mottos such as War is Peace and Freedom is Slavery. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]</sup> 20:02, 19 November 2008 (EST)
 
People generally refer to the society described in [[Orwell]]'s ''[[1984]]'' as crazy, with its consciously self-contradictory mottos such as War is Peace and Freedom is Slavery. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]</sup> 20:02, 19 November 2008 (EST)
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