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:::::::: LBJ went on national television within days and exaggerated the attack and its significance, and then obtain an extraordinary resolution from Congress within days of that.[http://www.vw.vccs.edu/vwhansd/HIS122/TonkinGulf_Incident.html]  If Moyar says that "LBJ refused to act," then it is Moyar who loses credibility by downplaying how LBJ acted in the most aggressive manner possible to boost his popularity weeks before the presidential election.  It makes me wonder what Moyar says about other political issues.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 21:05, 15 January 2009 (EST)
 
:::::::: LBJ went on national television within days and exaggerated the attack and its significance, and then obtain an extraordinary resolution from Congress within days of that.[http://www.vw.vccs.edu/vwhansd/HIS122/TonkinGulf_Incident.html]  If Moyar says that "LBJ refused to act," then it is Moyar who loses credibility by downplaying how LBJ acted in the most aggressive manner possible to boost his popularity weeks before the presidential election.  It makes me wonder what Moyar says about other political issues.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 21:05, 15 January 2009 (EST)
 
:::::::: Moyar says LBJ refused to act after the first attack, but that heavy pressure from the pentagon forced him to act after the second (supposed) attack. [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 22:52, 15 January 2009 (EST)
 
:::::::: Moyar says LBJ refused to act after the first attack, but that heavy pressure from the pentagon forced him to act after the second (supposed) attack. [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 22:52, 15 January 2009 (EST)
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::::::::: Nobody anywhere on the political spectrum, left or right, felt that LBJ could be pressured by anyone.  So if Moyar says that, then his insight into politics and LBJ is[ limited or biased.
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::::::::: I'm trying to determine if Moyar is a non-conservative.  This http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/21/opinion/21moyar.html?_r=1 op-ed] by him in the NY Times, with his reference to "Darwinian struggle" and his support of the U.S. leaving Iraq so that it can somehow restore order on its own (without Moyar once mentioning Islam), suggests that Moyar views the world like most who went to Harvard and Cambridge.  That's not conservative and it is susceptible to limitations and bias.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 23:34, 15 January 2009 (EST)
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