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::::: [http://creationontheweb.com/content/view/3012/ This page] list a number of layman's articles and technical papers which cover the [[information]] aspect in more detail.  Also, Werner Gitt's ''In the Beginning was Information'' is [http://www.sedin.org/propeng/informat.htm available online].
 
::::: [http://creationontheweb.com/content/view/3012/ This page] list a number of layman's articles and technical papers which cover the [[information]] aspect in more detail.  Also, Werner Gitt's ''In the Beginning was Information'' is [http://www.sedin.org/propeng/informat.htm available online].
 
::::: [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 21:08, 11 February 2009 (EST)
 
::::: [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 21:08, 11 February 2009 (EST)
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Thank you, Philip.  This does help.  I am looking for tech papers due to the description of the method used to gather the data.  I understand their position; I am trying to understand why they believe it to be impossible.  A quick example
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:The old dog ran.
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:The old doe ran.
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The first example provides the relative age of the animal, the animal, and the action.
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The second example provides the relative age of the animal, the animal, the action, and the gender of the animal.
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No increase in letters and only one letter switched however more information is provided.
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Now I know this is an overly simplified example but it is possible with codons.  I will give an example of a sequence as soon as I find my codons to AA matrix.--[[User:Able806|Able806]] 09:19, 13 February 2009 (EST)
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::::A good, information-increasing point mutation that comes to mind is the [https://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/extract/350/20/2096 LRP5 substitution], which "[enhances] skeletal mass without causing complications of osteopetrosis". Some users may be confused by the term "High-Bone-Mass Disease". If so, please see the medical definition of [http://www.mercksource.com/pp/us/cns/cns_hl_dorlands_split.jsp?pg=/ppdocs/us/common/dorlands/dorland/three/000030493.htm disease]. Some people are unwilling to open their minds to this being an instance of increased information. If that is the case, please proffer a definition of information in this context. [[User:MattL|MattL]] 10:48, 11 February 2009 (EST)
 
::::A good, information-increasing point mutation that comes to mind is the [https://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/extract/350/20/2096 LRP5 substitution], which "[enhances] skeletal mass without causing complications of osteopetrosis". Some users may be confused by the term "High-Bone-Mass Disease". If so, please see the medical definition of [http://www.mercksource.com/pp/us/cns/cns_hl_dorlands_split.jsp?pg=/ppdocs/us/common/dorlands/dorland/three/000030493.htm disease]. Some people are unwilling to open their minds to this being an instance of increased information. If that is the case, please proffer a definition of information in this context. [[User:MattL|MattL]] 10:48, 11 February 2009 (EST)
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