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Conservapedia:Editing etiquette (view source)
Revision as of 06:30, February 20, 2009
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== Edit Or Discuss First? ==
== Edit Or Discuss First? ==
An editor will often chastise another editor for not discussing an alteration to an article before altering the article, yet will often edit an article themselves without discussing it first. Does this make them hypocrites? Sometimes, yes, but often it's because the circumstances are different.
An editor will often chastise another editor for not discussing an alteration to an article before altering the article, yet will often edit an article themselves without discussing it first. Does this make them hypocrites? Sometimes, yes, but often it's because the circumstances are different, or unknown to you.
== Etiquette Rule: ==
===Etiquette Rule:===
*'''Never make substantial edits to an article without discussing your changes first on the talk page, if you have a reasonable expectation that other editors will accept your change, the changes are more than just formatting / copy editing, and involve a divergence from the editorial tone and direction of what you found. '''
*'''Never make substantial edits to an article without discussing your changes first on the talk page, if you have a reasonable expectation that other editors will accept your change, the changes are more than just formatting / copy editing, and involve a divergence from the editorial tone and direction of what you found. '''
* If you put your "facts" in neutral terms. For example, ''[[Evolutionist]] geologists and [[atheists]] believe that the world is 4.5 billion years old'' is better than ''The world is 4.5 billion years old.''
* If you put your "facts" in neutral terms. For example, ''[[Evolutionist]] geologists and [[atheists]] believe that the world is 4.5 billion years old'' is better than ''The world is 4.5 billion years old.''
* You explain your edits. This can be done in an edit comment (Summary edit field) or on the article's talk page. In the latter case, putting "See talk" in the edit comment will alert other editors to the fact that you have discussed your edit on the talk page.
* You explain your edits. This can be done in an edit comment (Summary edit field) or on the article's talk page. In the latter case, putting "See talk" in the edit comment will alert other editors to the fact that you have discussed your edit on the talk page.
*It was edited by an Administrator. Administrators decisions on CP policy / article content are to be respected. If you disagree, make your disagreement known, along with the reasons, on the article's talk page.
*It was edited by an Administrator, Administrators decisions on CP policy / article content are to be respected. If you disagree, make your disagreement known, along with the reasons, on the article's talk page, and if no reply, remind them of your post by leaving a note on their personal talk page.
===Etiquette Rule:===
*'''Favor improving another person's edits over completely deleting them.'''
So improving his edit (perhaps from ''The world is 4.5 billion years old'' to ''Secular geologists believe that the world is 5.6 billion years old'') is better than simply deleting.
If you think that the edit really should come out, explain why in the edit comment or on the talk page. If your reasons are good enough, chances are the first editor will see your point and accept his change being removed.
If you think that the edit really should come out, explain why in the edit comment or on the talk page. If your reasons are good enough, chances are the first editor will see your point and accept his change being removed.
If you question other editor's facts, then instead of just deleting them, put a {{tl|fact}} tag after the claimed fact, to give him an opportunity to support his edit. If the original editor fails to support his fact in a reasonable time (e.g. a week), then you have better justification for removing his "fact".
If you question other editor's facts, then instead of just deleting them, post to the talk page, and put a {{tl|fact}} tag after the claimed fact, to give him an opportunity to support his edit. If the original editor fails to support his fact in a reasonable time (minimum of a week), then you have better justification for removing his "fact". You could even post to the editors talk page, directing their attention to your post on the article's talk page.
===Etiquette Rule:===
*'''Avoid edit wars.'''
'''Etiquette rule:'''
An '''edit war''' is when two editors keep undoing the other editor's changes. Such a situation is totally unproductive and serves only to raise tempers. They are also against the [[Conservapedia:Locks and Blocks|Conservapedia Guidelines]], and you could be blocked.
:'''Avoid edit wars.'''
If you cannot agree on a change even after discussing it, ask other editors for their opinions or an Administrator to mediate.
''Do not revert an Administrator's changes''.
== Use the appropriate page for discussions ==
== Use The Appropriate Page For Discussions ==
===Etiquette Rule:===
*'''Discuss an article on that article's talk page.'''
When discussing changes to an article with another editor, have the discussion on the article's talk page, where other editors can see it and contribute if they wish, rather than on one of the editors' talk pages, where the discussion is unlikely to be seen by other editors.
When discussing changes to an article with another editor, have the discussion on the article's talk page, where other editors can see it and contribute if they wish, rather than on one of the editors' talk pages, where the discussion is unlikely to be seen by other editors.
This is also useful for ''later'' editors looking to see why something in the article is the way it is. They can expect to look on the article's talk page, not somewhere else entirely.
This is also useful for ''later'' editors looking to see why something in the article is the way it is. They can expect to look on the article's talk page, not somewhere else entirely.
===Etiquette rule:===
*'''Discuss off-topic discussions elsewhere.'''
Sometimes discussions about an article lead off to other matters. If the discussion is no longer about the article, move the discussion elsewhere. Conservapedia has more options for this than Wikipedia. Here are some of the options:
Sometimes discussions about an article lead off to other matters. If the discussion is no longer about the article, move the discussion elsewhere. Conservapedia has more options for this than Wikipedia. Here are some of the options:
* Discuss it on one of your user talk pages.
* Discuss it on one of your user talk pages.
* Create a [[debate topics|debate page]] for discussing that issue.
* Create a [[debate topics|debate page]] for discussing that issue.
* Create an [[essay]] for putting down your own thoughts on an issue.
* Create an [[essay]] for putting down your own thoughts on an issue.
* Email
* Instant Messenger
== Edit Histories ==
Edit histories allow other editors to see how an article was changed, and who changed it. Editors can also "step through" the edit histories to follow a series of changes.
Edit histories allow other editors to see how an article was changed, and who changed it. Editors can also "step through" the edit histories to follow a series of changes.
Following are some guidelines for making this easier on other users.
Following are some guidelines for making this easier on other users.
===Etiquette rule:===
*'''Use the "Show preview" button.'''
Using the Show preview button to check how your edit will look will reduce the number of changes to the article, keeping the edit history shorter. It can be irritating to other editors to have to step through a lot of very minor changes that could have been avoided if the Show preview button was used.
Using the Show preview button to check how your edit will look will reduce the number of changes to the article, keeping the edit history shorter. It can be irritating to other editors to have to step through a lot of very minor changes that could have been avoided if the Show preview button was used.
===Etiquette Rule:===
*'''Don't make massive changes in one go.'''
When you make massive changes in one edit, it makes it hard for other editors to see what was actually changed. Consider breaking your edits into smaller steps, particularly when moving paragraphs around. Changing ''and'' moving a paragraph in the one edit can make it difficult for the software to highlight the differences properly.
When you make massive changes in one edit, it makes it hard for other editors to see what was actually changed. Consider breaking your edits into smaller steps, particularly when moving paragraphs around. Changing ''and'' moving a paragraph in the one edit can make it difficult for the software to highlight the differences properly.
===Etiquette Rule:===
*'''Use edit summaries.'''
When you make a change, please put a brief (or not so brief) comment in the Summary box to explain your edit.
When you make a change, please put a brief (or not so brief) comment in the Summary box to explain your edit.
Common comments include:
Common comments include:
* ''Revert'' (or ''Rv'')
* ''Revert'' (or ''Rv'')
* ''Spelling'' (or ''Sp'')
* ''Spelling'' (or ''Sp'')
* ''copyedit'' (indicating that there were changes like a newspaper editor might make, to improve the spelling, grammar, or wording, but not changing the meaning nor deleting nor adding information).
* ''copyedit'' (indicating that there were changes like a newspaper editor might make, to improve the spelling, grammar, or wording, but not changing the meaning nor deleting nor adding information).
* If your change cannot be explained briefly, an edit comment of ''see talk'' will alert other editors that you have explained (or will explain) your edit on the talk page.
* If your change cannot be explained briefly, an edit comment of ''see talk'' will alert other editors that you have explained (or will explain) your edit on the talk page.
In your user preferences, you can select to have the software remind you if you don't include an edit comment.
In your user preferences, you can select to have the software remind you if you don't include an edit comment.
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