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:::I am not anti-American and that comment did not reject American values!  If anything, it upheld the truth about what happened and being TRUTHFUL is Christian, which is where America gained its founding.  Conservatism's core does NOT change over time, like truth, and to do otherwise is to break the very definition of it. If I was to say that Obama lied during his campaign, that is truth and it is not anti-American to expose it. [[User:Avalerion|Avalerion]]
 
:::I am not anti-American and that comment did not reject American values!  If anything, it upheld the truth about what happened and being TRUTHFUL is Christian, which is where America gained its founding.  Conservatism's core does NOT change over time, like truth, and to do otherwise is to break the very definition of it. If I was to say that Obama lied during his campaign, that is truth and it is not anti-American to expose it. [[User:Avalerion|Avalerion]]
 
:::We won't take people who think the United States is based on lies and the founding fathers were evil and the US has engaged in unjust wars and that the Constitution is a fraud and should not be obeyed. Go to Canada, please. [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 16:56, 11 May 2009 (EDT)
 
:::We won't take people who think the United States is based on lies and the founding fathers were evil and the US has engaged in unjust wars and that the Constitution is a fraud and should not be obeyed. Go to Canada, please. [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 16:56, 11 May 2009 (EDT)
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::::I never said the United States was based on lies.  If anything, I said that the Constitution was made through illegal means--WHICH IS TRUE.  Also, I did not say that the Founding Fathers were evil.  All people are, but it was the "Federalists" (who were actually Nationalists if you understand the differences between nationalism and federalism) that were deceitful.  The Anti-Federalists (the REAL Federalists) opposed it and even Patrick Henry said, "I smell a rat in Philadelphia!"  If it wasn't for people who questioned the government and upheld such conservatism that the REAL Federalists did, we'd have the same centralized government we have today two-hundred years ago.  Stop being rude to people. [[User:Avalerion|Avalerion]]
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