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|If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.
|If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.
|If you have known me, you shall know my Father also. From now on you know Him, and you shall see Him.
|If you have known me, you shall know my Father also. From now on you know Him, and you shall see Him.
|The tense changes in this sentence can be dizzying. The first clause is perfect (past completed), which indicates something that happened in the past, and is an established thing now in the present. The second clause is future, indicating a guaranteed promise. The third clause is present, showing what is going on right now, and the fourth clause goes back to future, indicating another promise for some day later. By translating the first clause "if you had known me," the KJV almost makes this a contrafactual conditional (a conditional statement in which the first clause is ASSUMED to be false, therefore the second one did not happen). Since that is NOT this construction, that is not a particularly good translation.
|The tense changes in this sentence can be dizzying. The first clause is perfect (past completed), which indicates something that happened in the past, and is an established thing now in the present. The second clause is future, indicating a guaranteed promise. The third clause is present, showing what is going on right now, and the fourth clause goes back to future, indicating another promise for some day later. By translating the first clause "if you had known me," the KJV almost makes this a contrafactual conditional (a conditional statement in which the first clause is ASSUMED to be false, therefore the second one did not happen). The reason for this is that the Byzantine tradition has a pluperfect instead of a perfect in that spot.
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|Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
|Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
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|Philip said, "Lord, show us the Father and it will be enough for us."
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|Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?
|Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?
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|Jesus responded, "Am I with you for such a long time and you do not know me, Philip? The one having seen Me has seen the Father. So how can you say, 'show us the Father?'
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