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Talk:Augusto Pinochet (view source)
Revision as of 06:54, November 18, 2010
, 06:54, November 18, 2010→White-Washing Pinochet
:: That 3000 does include deaths during the 1973 civil war. I do not think that it is correct to call them murders. I also removed the statement about USA support, as no source was given.
:: That 3000 does include deaths during the 1973 civil war. I do not think that it is correct to call them murders. I also removed the statement about USA support, as no source was given.
:::There was not much of a civil war. Allende was caught trying to arm his supporters with Cuban weapons, the Presidential Palace was bombed, the military took power. A great deal of the killing was, however, done in the immediate aftermath of the coup and under very chaotic circumstances. Whatever the number, Pinochet was a mass murderer: No individual felon who did what he did would be euphemized as anything better. If one concedes that states that murder are better than individual criminals, one comes dangerously close to accepting the idea that violation of rights by the state is less heinous because the state may violate rights for a constructive purpose (this is a fundamental tenet of leftist ideology). Nevertheless, the word "murder" can indeed seem quite inflammatory in an article on a statesmen, largely due to public perception that statesmen do not "murder" in the traditional sense. That's a questionable assertion, but for the sake of neutrality, I'd agree that it should have been avoided. I did not add the statement about US support, although there is evidence of such support before the election of President [[Carter]].[[User:JakeRMurrin|JakeRMurrin]] 01:54, 18 November 2010 (EST)