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I don't know about you, but Humanism seems like more than a philosophy to me: it has comprehensive beliefs on every issue imaginable (read:liberalism) and its own canon ([[The Origin of Species]]) and values (hedonism, materialism), political applications (Socialism, corporatism), favored class (the elite), priesthood of sorts (professors and other public educators), and evangelists (the media). Not to mention that modern secular humanism, the only strand of the philosophy still existing, is mutually exclusive with religion. How can something be mutually exclusive with a religion and yet not be a religion of some kind?--[[User:AnthonyDW|AnthonyDW]] 22:12, 2 January 2011 (EST)
 
I don't know about you, but Humanism seems like more than a philosophy to me: it has comprehensive beliefs on every issue imaginable (read:liberalism) and its own canon ([[The Origin of Species]]) and values (hedonism, materialism), political applications (Socialism, corporatism), favored class (the elite), priesthood of sorts (professors and other public educators), and evangelists (the media). Not to mention that modern secular humanism, the only strand of the philosophy still existing, is mutually exclusive with religion. How can something be mutually exclusive with a religion and yet not be a religion of some kind?--[[User:AnthonyDW|AnthonyDW]] 22:12, 2 January 2011 (EST)
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:I agree with you. I would see it as broader than philosophy, and an entire worldview and religion. In rejecting God, humanism seeks to challenge and overturn theistic religion and its claim to authority. I've heard a few humanists try and deny that humanism is more than a philosophy, but what they forget is that one of the earliest books ever written on humanism (from 1930) was called ''Humanism: A New Religion'' (you can find it on Google books). I'd like to recast its scope more broadly in this article, but I'm not sure if my changes would be deleted. At least we are on the same wavelength [[User:Michael4|Michael4]] 00:24, 4 February 2011 (EST)
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