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:::Yes, it also applies to templates created by sysops. Case in point: The "Protected" template had been created and used by sysops, and due to a <s>hilarious</s> sad mix-up, I ended up in a fairly heated debate about it (after being temp-banned and unbanned). The template had even been temporarily blanked and had then been reworded by Ed and TK to form a sort of "consensus" version. In fact, it had been that template that triggered the whole "Don't insert templates without consulting the other sysops and/or Andy!!!" issue. So just being a sysop does not place you above this rule (hence the careful wording about one bureaucrat or a consensus of a few sysops). --[[User:Sid 3050|Sid 3050]] 13:39, 4 April 2007 (EDT)
 
:::Yes, it also applies to templates created by sysops. Case in point: The "Protected" template had been created and used by sysops, and due to a <s>hilarious</s> sad mix-up, I ended up in a fairly heated debate about it (after being temp-banned and unbanned). The template had even been temporarily blanked and had then been reworded by Ed and TK to form a sort of "consensus" version. In fact, it had been that template that triggered the whole "Don't insert templates without consulting the other sysops and/or Andy!!!" issue. So just being a sysop does not place you above this rule (hence the careful wording about one bureaucrat or a consensus of a few sysops). --[[User:Sid 3050|Sid 3050]] 13:39, 4 April 2007 (EDT)
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*There wasn't any "consensus" version of the "Protected" template.  Ed and I both agreed, from the outset of the convo, what it should contain.  Quit trying to drive wedges, or make it a matter of two "sides".  That's careful wording to subtly change history, to make it seem there was an issue, when there was not.  Sysops should have to obtain the okay from a minimum of five of their peers before making/including system-wide templates.  It is silly thinking that as part of the sites administration, that rules regarding housekeeping would apply to them the same as any casual user, someone who signed up 24 hours earlier.  --~ [[User:TK|TerryK]] <sup>[[User_talk:TK|MyTalk]]</sup> 17:59, 4 April 2007 (EDT)
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