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::Andy, what will you do with these points? --[[User:MM87|<font color="#E56717">'''MM'''</font>]]''[[User_talk:MM87|<font color="#FBB117">'''''87'''''</font>]] 08:58, 16 August 2011 (EDT)
 
::Andy, what will you do with these points? --[[User:MM87|<font color="#E56717">'''MM'''</font>]]''[[User_talk:MM87|<font color="#FBB117">'''''87'''''</font>]] 08:58, 16 August 2011 (EDT)
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Well, MM87 and Jcw, if you're looking for a consensus of other people to join in on this subject, you're not going to be particularly gratified by the result.  Nearly everyone who knows or cares about the topic has been driven off or has otherwise left, especially people who accept the premises of Einsteinian relativity or the interpretations of same that are accepted by the scientific community.  But I'll give it a try.  This is just a quick summary; no time to go into detail.
 
Well, MM87 and Jcw, if you're looking for a consensus of other people to join in on this subject, you're not going to be particularly gratified by the result.  Nearly everyone who knows or cares about the topic has been driven off or has otherwise left, especially people who accept the premises of Einsteinian relativity or the interpretations of same that are accepted by the scientific community.  But I'll give it a try.  This is just a quick summary; no time to go into detail.
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:::::::"Propped up by political pressure"? Maybe you are talking about string theory...
 
:::::::"Propped up by political pressure"? Maybe you are talking about string theory...
 
:::::::Newtonian mechanics is a mathematically complete system that is either true or false ''in toto''. So is the Maxwell's theory of electromagnetism. From your point of view, they're both totally wrong, since there is a huge number of counterexamples (they aren't even compatibile each other), but physicists teach these theories to students everyday. Why don't you attack them in the same way as you attack relativity? --[[User:MM87|<font color="#E56717">'''MM'''</font>]]''[[User_talk:MM87|<font color="#FBB117">'''''87'''''</font>]] 15:14, 16 August 2011 (EDT)
 
:::::::Newtonian mechanics is a mathematically complete system that is either true or false ''in toto''. So is the Maxwell's theory of electromagnetism. From your point of view, they're both totally wrong, since there is a huge number of counterexamples (they aren't even compatibile each other), but physicists teach these theories to students everyday. Why don't you attack them in the same way as you attack relativity? --[[User:MM87|<font color="#E56717">'''MM'''</font>]]''[[User_talk:MM87|<font color="#FBB117">'''''87'''''</font>]] 15:14, 16 August 2011 (EDT)
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:::::::: That's not true about Newtonian mechanics.  Its exponents can be tweaked and its equations revised based on observation.  Not so for Relativity.
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:::::::: Liberals already teach that Newtonian mechanics is fundamentally incorrect, so there is little reason to add that (often false) criticism.  In contrast, liberals insist that Relativity must be true and they punish anyone who dares claim otherwise.  That needs to be challenged, but don't expect anyone who is a university grad student or professor wannabee to dare to do so.  His career will be over if he utters any criticism of Relativity.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 15:20, 16 August 2011 (EDT)
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