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*Sorry Mtur, not all of life can be defined by specific guidelines, and the more precise and exacting they are, the harder and more cumbersome comes the administration of them. A person wouldn't be blocked for doing what your scenario suggests, unless and until the user kept reverting it back to their version after being warned that it was unacceptable by a Sysop or Bureaucrat. That is exactly the same as all sites any of us might use. That is the whole reason for Sysops and Bureaucrats, to communicate what is and is not acceptable, on a case-by-case basis, if need be, if there is confusion as to what the Commandments and Guidelines mean. With all functions of authority, just like with religion, comes a leap of faith. Our charge is to implement the rules and guidelines, maintain civility and order. Users must trust the Administrators to be fair, and the Bureaucrats, and ultimately Andy, watch over the Sysop's to make sure they are. If one cannot make that leap of faith, they are perhaps at the wrong site. But I think it would be difficult, if not impossible to find one without rules, guidelines and authority. --~ [[User:TK|Sysop-TerryK]] <sup>[[User_talk:TK|MyTalk]]</sup> 20:21, 6 April 2007 (EDT)
*Sorry Mtur, not all of life can be defined by specific guidelines, and the more precise and exacting they are, the harder and more cumbersome comes the administration of them. A person wouldn't be blocked for doing what your scenario suggests, unless and until the user kept reverting it back to their version after being warned that it was unacceptable by a Sysop or Bureaucrat. That is exactly the same as all sites any of us might use. That is the whole reason for Sysops and Bureaucrats, to communicate what is and is not acceptable, on a case-by-case basis, if need be, if there is confusion as to what the Commandments and Guidelines mean. With all functions of authority, just like with religion, comes a leap of faith. Our charge is to implement the rules and guidelines, maintain civility and order. Users must trust the Administrators to be fair, and the Bureaucrats, and ultimately Andy, watch over the Sysop's to make sure they are. If one cannot make that leap of faith, they are perhaps at the wrong site. But I think it would be difficult, if not impossible to find one without rules, guidelines and authority. --~ [[User:TK|Sysop-TerryK]] <sup>[[User_talk:TK|MyTalk]]</sup> 20:21, 6 April 2007 (EDT)
::The thing is, we right now have a bunch of unwritten rules and a bunch of "policies" that became policies without discussion. I posted my concerns [[Conservapedia talk:Locks and Blocks|on that page]] and never got a reply. Now that it's suddenly an official policy, the very same questions come up again. Funny how that goes...
::I begin to see why you keep repeating the line "This is not Wikipedia". It really isn't. All rules are simply and arbitrarily dictated from the top without the need to answer questions. And now, a blanket rule basically says "A sysop will decide it on a case-by-case basis".
::Instead of letting users settle arguments among themselves with the help of rules, you instead make everybody depend on a select group you happen to be a member of. How convenient.
::This micromanagement, top-down approach may work on some sites, but it's doomed to fail on a free-for-all wiki system, I think. The only reason why it's not ''completely'' imploding yet is the fact that its active userbase is not growing at a noticeable rate.
::Additionally, this "policy" effectively does what many people had fought against - it merges editor and sysop roles into one. The edit of a sysop weighs more than the edit of an editor, no matter what the facts say. And without any fixed rules to judge what is "contrary to the Conservapedia philosophy", sysops effectively cannot be held responsible for bad decisions since there are none by definition. Convenient! --[[User:Sid 3050|Sid 3050]] 20:42, 6 April 2007 (EDT)
== how do u apply to be an admin?? ==
== how do u apply to be an admin?? ==
Is there an RfA process on Conservapedia??--[[User:Certified.Gangsta|Certified.Gangsta]] 20:24, 6 April 2007 (EDT)
Is there an RfA process on Conservapedia??--[[User:Certified.Gangsta|Certified.Gangsta]] 20:24, 6 April 2007 (EDT)