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Talk:United States Constitution (view source)
Revision as of 12:52, October 22, 2011
, 12:52, October 22, 2011→Exactly How were My Edits Wrong?
If one examines the Statutes at Large of the United States, Statute #1 is the Declaration of Independence, Statute #2 are the Articles, and there is no notation that they're not in force and effect. In fact, there are powers listed in the Articles that Congress exercises, that are not listed in the Constitution. For example, conscription is plainly listed in the Articles but omitted from the Constitution. Another tidbit is found in the prosecution of "status criminals" (vagrants, paupers, etc) that Black's Law dictionary notes are "constitutionally suspect" yet were prosecuted between 1777 and 1935 *(Socialist revolution). Article IV lists three excepted classes - paupers, vagabonds, and fugitives from justice.--[[User:Jetgraphics|Jetgraphics]] 11:28, 14 November 2007 (EST)
If one examines the Statutes at Large of the United States, Statute #1 is the Declaration of Independence, Statute #2 are the Articles, and there is no notation that they're not in force and effect. In fact, there are powers listed in the Articles that Congress exercises, that are not listed in the Constitution. For example, conscription is plainly listed in the Articles but omitted from the Constitution. Another tidbit is found in the prosecution of "status criminals" (vagrants, paupers, etc) that Black's Law dictionary notes are "constitutionally suspect" yet were prosecuted between 1777 and 1935 *(Socialist revolution). Article IV lists three excepted classes - paupers, vagabonds, and fugitives from justice.--[[User:Jetgraphics|Jetgraphics]] 11:28, 14 November 2007 (EST)
Article 6 says the federal government assumes the debts and treaties of the Articles, preventing a default on its obligations. It also says that the Constitution is the SUPREME law of the land, so it therefore supersedes the Articles and the Declaration. [[User:John101|John101]]
== Exactly How were My Edits Wrong? ==
== Exactly How were My Edits Wrong? ==
The gears were turning to create a new government rather slowly, and Alexander Hamilton proposed a convention to fix the Articles. This may have been illegal at the time, but the Congress resolved to endorse it. [[User:John101|John101]]
The gears were turning to create a new government rather slowly, and Alexander Hamilton proposed a convention to fix the Articles. This may have been illegal at the time, but the Congress resolved to endorse it. [[User:John101|John101]]
Just wanna point out that the Declaration of Independence was illegal. It was the right thing to do, but the States had no legal right to break away from the British Empire. As Britain revoked all claim in the Treaty of Paris (1783), signing the Constitution in 1789 would have been legal. - [[User:JamesCA|JamesCA]] 08:52, 22 October 2011 (EDT)