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::I said it once, and I'll say it again. The Bible has been used to condemn so many things, like: Sexism, slavery, murder of alternate religions, and racism. It also condones behaviors that are condemned today like polygamy. I doubt it's possible to ever change your typical opinion, sadly. Just try to open your mind up to these things I am showing you. If you dare say anything like, "God created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve," I will no longer respect your opinion. God also calls us to find a suitable partner. Eve was a suitable partner to Adam. Steve may be a suitable to a different Adam, and Anna a suitable partner to a different Eve, etc. --[[User:Bocaj910|Bocaj910]] 18:30, 20 November 2011 (EST)

::I said it once, and I'll say it again. The Bible has been used to condemn so many things, like: Sexism, slavery, murder of alternate religions, and racism. It also condones behaviors that are condemned today like polygamy. I doubt it's possible to ever change your typical opinion, sadly. Just try to open your mind up to these things I am showing you. If you dare say anything like, "God created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve," I will no longer respect your opinion. God also calls us to find a suitable partner. Eve was a suitable partner to Adam. Steve may be a suitable to a different Adam, and Anna a suitable partner to a different Eve, etc. --[[User:Bocaj910|Bocaj910]] 18:30, 20 November 2011 (EST)

:::Me and James warned you about violating the 90/10 rule three times already, and since you ignored those warnings I have no choice but to block you for a year. If you decide to defy this ban and return here once more using a sockpuppet, I will block you again and increase your ban time  

:::Me and James warned you about violating the 90/10 rule three times already, and since you ignored those warnings I have no choice but to block you for a year. If you decide to defy this ban and return here once more using a sockpuppet, I will block you again and this time it will be infinite.

to infinite.

:::With that, I’ll still answer the points you made just in case you’ll read my reply and reconsider your views and ways. First of, you completely ignored what I had to say regarding the story of Job; God put him in a much greater hardship than yours, so don’t claim that not having sex with other men is against God’s plan for you just because it puts you in inconvenience.

:::With that, I’ll still answer the points you made just in case you’ll read my reply and reconsider your views and ways. First of, you completely ignored what I had to say regarding the story of Job; God put him in a much greater hardship than yours, so don’t claim that not having sex with other men is against God’s plan for you just because it puts you in inconvenience.

:::And finally, regarding your lack of success in fighting your sexual desires. First of, were you aided by a therapist while fighting those urges or had you tried to conquer them by yourself? If it’s the latter than I strongly suggest that you go seek professional help so you might gain a better outcome this second time.

:::And finally, regarding your lack of success in fighting your sexual desires. First of, were you aided by a therapist while fighting those urges or had you tried to conquer them by yourself? If it’s the latter than I strongly suggest that you go seek professional help so you might gain a better outcome this second time.

:::With that, I am willing to accept that reparative therapy might not work for everyone. But even if it fails you it does not mean that you should surrender to your lust. Diseases are often relentless in the face of medicine but we still try to defeat them. In case you find yourself unchanged despite of all efforts than celibacy might be the answer for you, I know that cyproterone and Depo-Provera are useful in suppressing the sexual urge and I would have seriously thought of using them had I been in your situation. - [[User:Markman|Markman]] 03:14, 21 November 2011 (EST)

:::With that, I am willing to accept that reparative therapy might not work for everyone. But even if it fails you it does not mean that you should surrender to your lust. Diseases are often relentless in the face of medicine but we still try to defeat them. In case you find yourself unchanged despite of all efforts, celibacy might be the answer for you. I know that cyproterone and Depo-Provera are useful in suppressing the sexual urge and if I were in your situation I would have seriously thought of using them. - [[User:Markman|Markman]] 03:14, 21 November 2011 (EST)