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| − | :It tells you that at some point Democrats (not the same as Liberals) supported intervetionist positions. And this quote from the same debate shows that Republican oppose them sometimes:
| + | It tells you that at some point Democrats (not the same as Liberals) supported intervetionist positions. And this quote from the same debate shows that Republican oppose them sometimes: |
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| | BUSH:But we can't be all things to all people in the world, Jim. And I think that's where maybe the vice president and I begin to have some differences. I'm worried about overcommitting our military around the world. I want to be judicious in its use. You mentioned Haiti. I wouldn't have sent troops to Haiti. I didn't think it was a mission worthwhile. '''It was a nation building mission, and it was not very successful.''' It cost us billions, a couple billions of dollars, and I'm not so sure democracy is any better off in Haiti than it was before. | | BUSH:But we can't be all things to all people in the world, Jim. And I think that's where maybe the vice president and I begin to have some differences. I'm worried about overcommitting our military around the world. I want to be judicious in its use. You mentioned Haiti. I wouldn't have sent troops to Haiti. I didn't think it was a mission worthwhile. '''It was a nation building mission, and it was not very successful.''' It cost us billions, a couple billions of dollars, and I'm not so sure democracy is any better off in Haiti than it was before. |
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| | BUSH:I think what we need to do is convince people who live in the lands they live in to build the nations. Maybe I'm missing something here. '''I mean, we're going to have kind of a nation building core from America? Absolutely not.''' Our military is meant to fight and win war. That's what it's meant to do. And when it gets overextended, morale drops. | | BUSH:I think what we need to do is convince people who live in the lands they live in to build the nations. Maybe I'm missing something here. '''I mean, we're going to have kind of a nation building core from America? Absolutely not.''' Our military is meant to fight and win war. That's what it's meant to do. And when it gets overextended, morale drops. |
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| − | So, both sides of the political divide sometimes oppose nation building, and favor it at other times. So, it nicely illustrates the point. [[User|Order]] 11 April, 9:45 (AEST) | + | So, both sides of the political divide sometimes oppose nation building, and favor it at other times. So, it nicely illustrates the point. [[User:Order]] 11 April, 9:45 (AEST) |
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| − | *I see that the aticle still says that "Liberals oppose foreign policy", while it should say "Liberals refuse to view foreign policy". You locked the atcile and you keep editing it. Could you either unlock it, or stop editing it. 11 April, 9:45 (AEST) | + | *I see that the aticle still says that "Liberals oppose foreign policy", while it should say "Liberals refuse to view foreign policy". You locked the atcile and you keep editing it. Could you either unlock it, or stop editing it. [[User:Order]] 11 April, 9:45 (AEST) |
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| | ==Liberal vs libertarian== | | ==Liberal vs libertarian== |