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::: Hahaha, but that doesn't make any sense. You're going to use the wrong, unofficial name because it's not interesting to write an entire article about a society which promotes the official name? So what if that society '''''didn't exist at all''''', would that mean you'd automatically go for the incorrect names for articles? Maybe you should rename [[United_States_of_America|this article]] to just USA, it's a lot easier to type! Also, as it was set up before the name Den Bosch would redirect to the 's-Hertogenbosch page, so that wouldn't really be too hard to use for Americans. Ed Poor, is there some kind of reason you keep fighting to use the incorrect name? AugustO showed you that the official correct naming is 's-Hertogenbosch, I've confirmed it as a local, I've shown you that there are even people working to promote use of the official proper name, yet you refuse to change it for no other apparent reason than seeming pure stubbornness, which I don't really get.. It's not like this is a debatable issue anywhere else. --[[User:GTac|GTac]] 02:13, 15 June 2012 (EDT)
 
::: Hahaha, but that doesn't make any sense. You're going to use the wrong, unofficial name because it's not interesting to write an entire article about a society which promotes the official name? So what if that society '''''didn't exist at all''''', would that mean you'd automatically go for the incorrect names for articles? Maybe you should rename [[United_States_of_America|this article]] to just USA, it's a lot easier to type! Also, as it was set up before the name Den Bosch would redirect to the 's-Hertogenbosch page, so that wouldn't really be too hard to use for Americans. Ed Poor, is there some kind of reason you keep fighting to use the incorrect name? AugustO showed you that the official correct naming is 's-Hertogenbosch, I've confirmed it as a local, I've shown you that there are even people working to promote use of the official proper name, yet you refuse to change it for no other apparent reason than seeming pure stubbornness, which I don't really get.. It's not like this is a debatable issue anywhere else. --[[User:GTac|GTac]] 02:13, 15 June 2012 (EDT)
 
::::As an American (although I've been living in Europe for several years now), I do not find the official name confusing at all. Out of respect (a conservative value) for other people, other cultures and other languages, I also support moving the article back to 's-Hertogenbosch. Having "Den Bosch" redirect to "'s-Hertogenbosch" is fine and surely required, but also sufficient given that it just an inofficial name. --[[User:FrederickT3|FrederickT3]] 12:08, 15 June 2012 (EDT)
 
::::As an American (although I've been living in Europe for several years now), I do not find the official name confusing at all. Out of respect (a conservative value) for other people, other cultures and other languages, I also support moving the article back to 's-Hertogenbosch. Having "Den Bosch" redirect to "'s-Hertogenbosch" is fine and surely required, but also sufficient given that it just an inofficial name. --[[User:FrederickT3|FrederickT3]] 12:08, 15 June 2012 (EDT)
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[[User:Ed Poor]], you have read [[User:GTac]]'s comment - as you object to his use of ''stubbornness'' on his [[User talk:GTac|talk page]]. Why not addressing the substance of his comment - and just move [[Den Bosch]] to [['s-Hertogenbosch]] via redirect? Give your American compatriots some credit (''"we should keep using the page title that's easiest for us Americans"''), some may even enjoy the leading apostrophe!  [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 02:52, 16 June 2012 (EDT)
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