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I'm going to have to take a minute and defend metal. Bealecr, I'm assuming that you are not a musician, and if you are, you do not have a well-trained ear. It takes a lot of musical talent to write a metal song. Heavy metal-style guitar has extreme similarities with jazz guitar. Sure, jazz guitar uses more dominant-seventh chords, but the similarities are there. They both tend to play fast, and make use of pentatonic scales. The same is true with bass. Roxanne Constantin, the former bass player of Death, one of the founding death metal bands, has a B.A. in piano from the Montreal Conservatory of Music. Playing metal-style drums well is exceedingly hard. Playing blast-beats and double-bass requires extreme precision, something that takes tons of practice time to perfect. Also, metal drumming is incredibly physically taxing. Derek Roddy, a drummer known for popularizing the blast beat, has said that it takes years to get one's legs conditioned enough to become a proficient metal drummer. Metal drummers have been known to seek a multifaceted approach. Jason Bittner is a graduate of the Berklee College of Music, and is an expert in metal, jazz, and latin drumming. Derek Roddy is also known to emphasize studying several styles of drumming. Metal vocalists are not the most talented, but they come with the genre. The lyrics, however, are extremely intelligent. While there are bands like Cannibal Corpse out there that sing about gruesome kills, other bands sing about subjects like history, cloning, reliance on oil, Nazi human experimentation, etc... No one is obligated to enjoy metal, not many people do. But to say that metal musicians are talentless is simply ignorant. --[[User:Esmith543|Esmith543]] 23:27, 29 May 2011 (EDT)
 
I'm going to have to take a minute and defend metal. Bealecr, I'm assuming that you are not a musician, and if you are, you do not have a well-trained ear. It takes a lot of musical talent to write a metal song. Heavy metal-style guitar has extreme similarities with jazz guitar. Sure, jazz guitar uses more dominant-seventh chords, but the similarities are there. They both tend to play fast, and make use of pentatonic scales. The same is true with bass. Roxanne Constantin, the former bass player of Death, one of the founding death metal bands, has a B.A. in piano from the Montreal Conservatory of Music. Playing metal-style drums well is exceedingly hard. Playing blast-beats and double-bass requires extreme precision, something that takes tons of practice time to perfect. Also, metal drumming is incredibly physically taxing. Derek Roddy, a drummer known for popularizing the blast beat, has said that it takes years to get one's legs conditioned enough to become a proficient metal drummer. Metal drummers have been known to seek a multifaceted approach. Jason Bittner is a graduate of the Berklee College of Music, and is an expert in metal, jazz, and latin drumming. Derek Roddy is also known to emphasize studying several styles of drumming. Metal vocalists are not the most talented, but they come with the genre. The lyrics, however, are extremely intelligent. While there are bands like Cannibal Corpse out there that sing about gruesome kills, other bands sing about subjects like history, cloning, reliance on oil, Nazi human experimentation, etc... No one is obligated to enjoy metal, not many people do. But to say that metal musicians are talentless is simply ignorant. --[[User:Esmith543|Esmith543]] 23:27, 29 May 2011 (EDT)
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Speaking as a musician, I've grown to appreciate all forms of music. Just because it's not good music doesn't mean it's not music. Even metal is music, as bands like Mastodon have shown us. - Liberal Cat, 12:53PM CST, Mon June 25th 2012
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