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[[User:RobS|RobS]], we try to write an encyclopedic article about 'Liberals'. However, what you try to do is settle the Gore-Bush dispute. I said it before, your anger at Liberals on issues from recent history doesn't make a good article. If you think that I am arguing in favor of Gore, you are mistaken. I argue to see interventionist positions as what they are, neither liberal nor conservative. And the Gore-Bush debate proves it. [[User:Order|Order]] 11 April, 13:55 (AEST)
[[User:RobS|RobS]], we try to write an encyclopedic article about 'Liberals'. However, what you try to do is settle the Gore-Bush dispute. I said it before, your anger at Liberals on issues from recent history doesn't make a good article. If you think that I am arguing in favor of Gore, you are mistaken. I argue to see interventionist positions as what they are, neither liberal nor conservative. And the Gore-Bush debate proves it. [[User:Order|Order]] 11 April, 13:55 (AEST)
Take some breath [[User:RobS|RobS]]. It seems like you you not able, or not willing, to distinguish between a ''description'' of Liberal positions, and ''advocating'' those positions. I am ''describing'' positions. I am not at all interested in what you think about it, as much as I think that it not interesting put into the article what I think about it. You should be able to observe why a critic opposes a foreign policy. Observing and describing a position doesn't mean that you have to agree with a position.
Some things that we should be able to agree upon are the following:
* Isolationism is neither liberal nor conservative, neither now, nor in 2000, nor at some other time in the last century.
* People oppose foreign policies for at least four different reasons.
* Only one of these reasons is that people oppose human rights abroad on principal grounds.
* Other reasons why people oppose policies of an administration are that they doubt the integrity, the capability or the responsibility of the administration. [[User:Order|Order]] 11 April 17:15 (AEST)
==Liberal vs libertarian==
==Liberal vs libertarian==