Talk:United States presidential election, 2012

I think the biggest negative about John Thune (other than the fact that he's not really well known right now) is that he supported the McCain-Feingold bill. He's since admitted that that was a mistake, and no one is perfect, of course, but if he does seriously run in 2012, people are going to bring that vote up.--Whizkid 22:56, 12 February 2010 (EST)

Good point, I'll add it. I don't think it disqualifies him.--Andy Schlafly 22:58, 12 February 2010 (EST)

Is Mitt Romney "regularly" on Fox? I haven't seen that, but I don't watch it regularly.--Andy Schlafly 09:44, 15 February 2010 (EST)

If no one can vouch for Mitt Romney being "regularly" on Fox, then I'll revert it back to something like "rarely" on Fox.--Andy Schlafly 16:45, 15 February 2010 (EST)

While "regularly" is obviously a subjective measure, he's been on Fox a lot lately. He was on Hannity on January 20th, on "On the Record with Greta van Sustern" on January 11th, and on Hannity again on December 18th. Of course, a lot of that was to discuss the Scott Brown race. Sean Hannity also had him on a lot in 2008 after John McCain got the nomination to analyze the presidential race. While I don't have an opinion as to whether or not that counts as regularly, I thought you might like to know.--Whizkid 17:23, 15 February 2010 (EST)

That's helpful, but doesn't seem to be nearly as much as the Fox favorites of Palin, Huckabee and Gingrich. So perhaps "on occasionally" might describe this best. 2008 is ancient history and not relevant to appearances in connection with 2012.--Andy Schlafly 17:54, 15 February 2010 (EST)

Hillary Clinton

Of all potential candidates, Obama, Palin, McCain, Romney, et all, Hillary Clinton currently enjoys the highest approval ratings at 58%. It is hard not to believe the Clintons are not seriously mulling thier options at the moment. This article should note the distinct possibility of a Democratic Primary challenge in 2012 as US News has reported. [1] Obama recently remarked on the possibility of being a one term president in his Diane Sawyer interview and Hillary stated she cannot see herself being Secretary of State after 2012. Rob Smith 10:02, 15 February 2010 (EST)

Sarah Palin

Is "irrational liberal hatred of her" really a con? It seems it will just make the Democrats look foolish when they foam at the mouth and drive more voters to the Republicans. DouglasA 13:40, 31 March 2010 (EDT)

You may be right, but it could be a hurdle. The liberal media are losing market share but still have some.--Andy Schlafly 17:00, 31 March 2010 (EDT)

I'm guessing it'd come down to her performance. If she does well in debate and interviews, the rage will look silly. DouglasA 17:10, 31 March 2010 (EDT)

People resent seeing those like them being attacked. They look at Palin and see someone they know IRL. We all have family dramas and tribulations. Those outside the political world don't see her quitting as Governor to be as bad a thing as the media and political world make it out to be, to use but one example. --ṬK_/Admin^/Talk 17:20, 31 March 2010 (EDT)

Ken Cuccinelli

Why is "effective critic of Obama" under cons? I have a feeling that might have been vandalism. Does anyone oppose if that is moved to a pro?--IScott 18:45, 6 July 2010 (EDT)

Please do. Great point, thanks.--Andy Schlafly 19:06, 6 July 2010 (EDT)

A concern

Does anyone feel like having so many potential Republican candidates is a detriment? It just feels like the Republican Party is so divided these days. As for Clinton and Obama, if Clinton wins over Obama I'd be thoroughly surprised. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure the incumbent president has never been beaten in the primaries by someone else in their own party. Also, I think Obama has kept a lot of moderates on his side. However, he's never been a friend of the right, and he's alienating the left. Just my 2 cents. --JasonN 12:40, 24 August 2010 (EDT)

In 1968, incumbent Lyndon Johnson felt compelled to withdraw from the race after being humiliated by the strong showing of Eugene McCarthy against him in the first primary.

As to the large number, that's appropriate at this stage so that no one is missed. Competition is a good thing!--Andy Schlafly 13:14, 24 August 2010 (EDT)

Rubio and Experience

I'm curious what you all think about Rubio in 2012. The article says "Will face liberal double standard: what's OK for Obama (e.g., inexperience) is somehow not OK for a conservative." But it seems to me that by pushing him in 2012 we might be equally guilty of a conservative double standard: Obama was quite rightly attacked by conservatives for inexperience. But what's not OK for Obama is OK for Rubio? My perspective is that Rubio should serve out his term and consider a run in 2020, probably holding a high office (maybe VP) during the 2017-2021 term of whoever ends up beating Obama. Thoughts? --LanceS 22:31, 3 November 2010 (EDT)