Talk:Liberal bias

What is ...?

This article has no definition of what a Liberal Bias is.--Elamdri 22:30, 11 March 2007 (EDT)

I'd go for some citations, too. And some fries. :D Aziraphale 11:36, 12 March 2007 (EDT)

Should the Daily Show and Colbert Report be on here? Neither make any claim to be unbiased, and Jon Stewart has occasionally derided interviewers (most famously on Crossfire, when he wasn't calling them bad for America) for assuming he was a real news outlet and should be expected to act like one. There's a difference between, say, Air America (Liberal Spin, or Liberal Perspective, depending on how nice you are) and NPR (Liberal Bias) Momoka 01:02 15 March 2007

I agree, but if we remove the "Duh..." cases, we're basically left only with unsourced statements. ;) I'm not sure what the point of the article is, anyway. If the things in question have a liberal bias, just say it in the article and supply a source.</opinion> --Sid 3050 08:40, 16 March 2007 (EDT)

I also think this article should include a description of what liberal bias is so that the Conservatives amongst us know what to watch out for.

JC 09:28, 21 March 2007 (EDT)

Unreferenced statements

Cut from intro:

The problem with liberal bias is not just the harm which advocacy of false liberal notions does (which is bad enough), but that Liberals are oblivious to their liberalness. Many of them quite literally and sincerely consider themselves "middle of the road" (see Dan Rather, as mentioned in Goldberg's Bias (book).

user:Hojimachong called this "original research". That stings a bit, because I'm a refugee from Wikipedia where "OR" is a big no-no. So I'll try to dig up some referencs for this. --Ed Poor 01:21, 20 March 2007 (EDT)

Okay, I think I've provided 2 citations for the idea that Liberals are oblivious to their liberalness and 1 citation for Dan Rather calling a Liberal newspaper "middle of the road". This still might not be up to encyclopedia quality, because it's only one source: Bernard Goldberg. --Ed Poor 01:41, 20 March 2007 (EDT)

References that don't support the item they're referencing

This article is a mess. Everything in it should have a citation. And the citation should be a published statement by someone authoritative—a recognized conservative is fine, but not "me and my brother"—that says the thing in question is liberal.

What set me going is that there is a reference for Dan Rather's being considered liberal. But the reference does not say Dan Rather is liberal. It says Dan Rather things the New York Times is middle-of-the-road. There's a big difference between "X says Dan Rather is liberal" and "Dan Rather says Y is middle-of-the-road."

Particularly when no source has been cited for the New York Times' supposed liberal bias. Dpbsmith 08:43, 6 April 2007 (EDT)