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/* Debate: Is the Roman Catholic doctrine of grace biblical */
::::::::::::Did you ever admit that those things even happened? No, I guess you passed them by without acknowledgement! And certainly without apology. [[User:VargasMilan|VargasMilan]] ([[User talk:VargasMilan|talk]]) Wednesday, 06:00, 26 August 2020 (EDT)
:::::::::::::An explanation is still needed for how the gates of hell prevailed against the church Jesus founded on a rock, when He Himself said it could never happen. Jesus is God Who cannot lie. The antagonist position has not addressed this. I suggest that this issue of the claim of the Reformation that the Catholic Church became Antichrist and the claim of a [[Great apostasy]] be debated: [[Debate: Have the gates of hell prevailed against the church Jesus founded on a rock, when He Himself said it could never happen? Did Christ who cannot lie fail to fulfill his promise?]] --[[User:Dataclarifier|Dataclarifier]] ([[User talk:Dataclarifier|talk]]) 19:54, 26 August 2020 (EDT)
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