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/* The Christian is not under law */
::1 Peter 5:2-3 (quoted above) is pastoral counsel to '''those who have the oversight of the flock of God'''. He did not contradict the fact that '''they do have the oversight as elders and leaders and shepherds that we are bound to obey.'''
::*'''Hebrews 13:17''' - '''''Obey''' your leaders and '''submit''' to them; for they are keeping watch over your souls, as men who will have to give account. Let them do this joyfully, and not sadly, for that would be of no advantage to you.''<ref>https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Hebrews%2013:17</ref>
::There is no denying that elders and leaders and shepherds of the flock of God (but not all) have abused their office just as Nero abused the office of emperor, and they will all be called to account for it. We are still commanded to honor all men, to love the brotherhood of the church, and to honor even wicked leaders like Nero, that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life, godly and respectful in every way, and we too will be called to account for our behavior."''For he will render to every man according to his works''" (Romans 2:6; Revelation 22:12)
::*'''1 Timothy 2:1-3''' - ''First of all, then, I urge that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and thanksgivings be made for all who are in high positions, that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life, godly and respectful in every way. This is good, and it is acceptable in the sight of God our Savior, who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.''<ref>https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Timothy%202:1-4</ref>
::This is the ultimate fulfillment of God's commandment to honor our fathers and mothers, even if they are wicked, and to obey the judges of the people, even if they are wicked. "You shall not revile God, nor curse a ruler of your people." (Exodus 20:12; 22:28; Matthew 23:2-3; John 19:10-11)
::--[[User:IndependentSkeptic|IndependentSkeptic]] ([[User talk:IndependentSkeptic|talk]]) 08:16, 28 August 2020 (EDT)
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