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::I cited the scriptures (''I had help''.) The "'''The law'''" in all of Paul's letters refers to "the law of Moses".<ref>https://biblehub.com/topical/l/law.htm The Topical Bible: "Law"</ref> The Bible commands obedience to authority—especially to the higher authorities. Even the congregation of the people of the Lord under the authority of the elders and leaders and shepherds of the flock of the Lord charged as guardians to feed them. Both Old Testament and New Testament, so that it is the will of God to obey those in authority, especially the higher authorities and leaders in the church, even if they are sinful men. This doctrine in the Bible is not the will of sinful men speaking according to their own corrupt and prideful fleshly carnal opinion, but the infallible word and will of God Himself. And the wrath of God is against the disobedient. On those who obey, grace is poured. On those who do not obey, who are factious and do not obey the truth but obey wickedness, there will be wrath and fury (Romans 2:8). This finally convinced me that the Reformers who disobeyed their leaders and went out from the church and taught a different doctrine were wrong, "not having the Spirit". Jude 19 "''It is these who set up divisions, worldly people, devoid of the Spirit''." And as proof that it's talking about them and all like them, to this very day Reformation principles embraced by many independent-minded Christians have generated divisions for five hundred years on the ground that leaders '''''can''''' be disrespected and disobeyed and rebelled against, like in the example of Korah's rebellion against the priests of God who had the rule over them as Moses and Aaron. And the same thing was done by Jeroboam in 1 Kings 12:25-33 (''esp. verse 31''), and in 2 Chronicles 13:6-12, when he appointed priests of his own making who were not according to the will of the Lord, but apart from and in disobedient defiance of the scripture regarding the established authority of the priesthood of Aaron valid up to the time of the apostles whom Jesus Himself ordained ("I have chosen you and ordained you" Luke 22:29-30). <br>You, and all others of a mind like you, who reject the authority of the church to bind and to loose and to forgive or retain anyone's sins as they judge to be right according to the will of God as seen in the Bible, it is you who willfully set aside the word of God to set yourself above and apart as not obligated to obey Him, and as not obligated to obey the authority He has appointed, in what the Bible commands '''all''' men everywhere to do to fulfill His sovereign will, by submitting to the leaders who watch over your souls. You misapply the scriptures to justify yourselves, and it is they that speak against doing that. "Therefore, let any one who thinks that he stands take heed lest he fall." 1&nbsp;Corinthians 10:12. St. Peter said that it is the ignorant and unstable who twist the scriptures to their own destruction. 2 Peter 3:16-17. Those who <big>'''will'''</big> to '''not do''' the Father's will as not obligated in any way to obey it are deprived of grace, and lose what they thought they had. "Be careful how you hear. To him who has will more be given and he shall have abundance. But to him who has not, even what he thinks he has will be taken away." (Luke 8:18; Matthew 25:29)—unless you repent and confess that you have been determined according to your own opinion of private interpretation of the scriptures to justify yourselves as free to not obey the word of the Lord and as not being condemned for your self-willed rejection of what he has ordained and established so you can pick and choose what you like from the word of God and discard the rest you don't like, as Martin Luther did in judging the scriptures and rejecting four New Testament books (Hebrews, James, Jude, and Revelation) because they condemned disobedience and said that faith without works is dead and brings condemnation for being unfruitful. We can't earn salvation, but of those who are saved good works are required according to each one's ability, or they are worthless servants producing no fruit and they forfeit what they have through Christ alone, and are taken away and burned (John 15:1-8). --[[User:IndependentSkeptic|IndependentSkeptic]] ([[User talk:IndependentSkeptic|talk]]) 12:01, 28 August 2020 (EDT)