::::We've been over this a dozen times. The gospel was preached to Israel in the wilderness. King David had the Holy Spirit. Job was "perfect and upright." Zacharias and Elisabeth both were righteous before God, as was Abel. '''Jesus had not yet died''' either. You apparently do not know what the gospel is. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Trump 2Q2Q]]</sup> 08:43, 30 August 2020 (EDT)
::::Independent Skeptic says, '''"This shows that John's water baptism unto repentance cannot be the water baptism which Jesus commanded people to receive"''' Bingo! Now reconcile what you just posted with Roman Catholic doctrine and all drivel in the [[Infant baptism]] page. Hint: Jesus didn't command "water baptism". [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Trump 2Q2Q]]</sup> 09:0407, 30 August 2020 (EDT)
::::<s>You are trolling again.</s> Below you state salvation is earned or merited, which is exactly what catechism teaches. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Trump 2Q2Q]]</sup> 09:42, 29 August 2020 (EDT)